medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture http://www.webhits.de/ffm/luther/elgboard/messages/34.html sais it again: This sentence is known only since 1944. Extensive information on the question is to be found in: Schloemann, Martin: Luthers Apfelbaumchen? ein Kapitel deutscher Mentalitatsgeschichte seit dem Zweiten Weltkrieg, Gottingen : Vandenhoeck & Ruprecht ; cop. 1994. ISBN 3-525-01617-4 Luther would - the end of time in sight - rather have drunken a beer than planted a tree :) Daniel *** Daniel Bolliger, lic. theol. Institut fur Schweiz. Reformationsgeschichte Kirchgasse 9 CH-8001 Zurich e-mail: : [log in to unmask] Tel: ++41 (0)1 6344718 Fax: ++41 (0)1 6344991 -----Ursprungliche Nachricht----- Von: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture [mailto:[log in to unmask]]Im Auftrag von Phyllis Jestice Gesendet: Donnerstag, 4. Juli 2002 02:22 An: [log in to unmask] Betreff: Re: [M-R] go on planting trees medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture Was Luther familiar with the Talmud? Arthur Mendel in *Vision and Violence* (U. of Michigan, 1992) has an interesting discussion of apocalyptic messianism in Judaism, including the quote from the Talmud (unfortunately he doesn't make it clear which rabbi said it): "If you are planting a tree and someone comes and says, 'the Messiah is coming!' go on planting. . . ." Phyllis >medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture > >You may want to look at the following website: >http://www.luther.de/e/baeume.html >re Luther and trees > >-----Original Message----- >From: John Flood [mailto:[log in to unmask]] >Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2002 10:20 AM >To: [log in to unmask] >Subject: Re: [M-R] go on planting trees > > >medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture > >Unfortunately the details escape me, but someone wrote an article in German >on this not very long ago (within the last couple of years). As I remember >it, the statement attributed to Luther is `Even if I knew the world would >end tomorrow, I would still plant my apple tree today'. However (if I >remember the article correctly), this statement cannot be verified from >Luther's writings or table-talk. > > >Professor John L. Flood >University of London School of Advanced Study >Institute of Germanic Studies >29 Russell Square >London WC1B 5DP > >020 7862 8969 (direct line) >e-mail [log in to unmask] > >http://www.sas.ac.uk/igs > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Richard Landes [mailto:[log in to unmask]] >Sent: 03 July 2002 16:17 >To: [log in to unmask] >Subject: [M-R] go on planting trees > > >medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture > >according to a tradition i cannot trace, luther is said to have responded >that if someone claimed the messiah had come one shd go on planting >trees. does anyone know of this (even attributed to other figures)? does >someone know of a reformation or early modern list they can forward this to? >richard > >********************************************************************** >To join the list, send the message: join medieval-religion YOUR NAME >to: [log in to unmask] >To send a message to the list, address it to: >[log in to unmask] >To leave the list, send the message: leave medieval-religion >to: [log in to unmask] >In order to report problems or to contact the list's owners, write to: >[log in to unmask] >For further information, visit our web site: >http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/medieval-religion.html > >********************************************************************** >To join the list, send the message: join medieval-religion YOUR NAME >to: [log in to unmask] >To send a message to the list, address it to: >[log in to unmask] >To leave the list, send the message: leave medieval-religion >to: [log in to unmask] >In order to report problems or to contact the list's owners, write to: >[log in to unmask] >For further information, visit our web site: >http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/medieval-religion.html > >********************************************************************** >To join the list, send the message: join medieval-religion YOUR NAME >to: [log in to unmask] >To send a message to the list, address it to: >[log in to unmask] >To leave the list, send the message: leave medieval-religion >to: [log in to unmask] >In order to report problems or to contact the list's owners, write to: >[log in to unmask] >For further information, visit our web site: >http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/medieval-religion.html Dr. Phyllis G. 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