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medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture > > From: Christopher Crockett <[log in to unmask]> > Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 07:51:31 -0700 > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: [M-R] Deaconesses in early and medieval Church > > medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture > I thought -issa was fairly commonly added to the masculine form to refer to the wife of a functionary - e.g., dux, ducissa. If diaconissa and subdiaconissa were standing on their own, without the sua, I would be tempted to think they referred to deaconesses and subdeaconesses. Not in this clause though. >The fact that the text kicks off with presbiter cum presbitera sua makes it pretty definite even without "sua' - even without looking in Blaise s.v.presbitera. In any event, the context is clearly the relations of clerics with their wives. Bernadette . > Nam si inuentus fuerit presbiter cum presbitera sua aut diaconus cum > diaconissa sua aut subdiaconus cum subdiaconissa sua, annum integrum > excommunis habeatur et depositus ab omni officio clericali ... > > > a question from the Latiniacally-challenged: *is* it legitimate to translate > "diaconissa/subdiaconissa" as "wife of a deacon/subdeacon" rather than "a > female deacon/subdeacon" ?? > > is it the "cum...sua" which makes that possible/necessary, or would it hold > for the appearance of the word in a "stand alone" context? > > christopher > > ********************************************************************** > To join the list, send the message: join medieval-religion YOUR NAME > to: [log in to unmask] > To send a message to the list, address it to: > [log in to unmask] > To leave the list, send the message: leave medieval-religion > to: [log in to unmask] > In order to report problems or to contact the list's owners, write to: > [log in to unmask] > For further information, visit our web site: > http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/medieval-religion.html > ----- Get your free WebMail account from Sympatico-Lycos at www.sympatico.ca ----- ********************************************************************** To join the list, send the message: join medieval-religion YOUR NAME to: [log in to unmask] To send a message to the list, address it to: [log in to unmask] To leave the list, send the message: leave medieval-religion to: [log in to unmask] In order to report problems or to contact the list's owners, write to: [log in to unmask] For further information, visit our web site: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/medieval-religion.html