medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture Christopher, I don't know the novel, but if it's set post-1230 in Languedoc the good men or women or perfects or heretics tended to travel with members of the opposite sex to try and avoid being suspected of being a good man or woman or perfect or heretic, as their pre-persecution preference was to travel in single sex pairs. The idea was two men (or women) traveling together could monitor each others behavior and, by praying together, enter in community with Christ. Once the inquisition came along, however, they had to pretend to be more interested in contact with the opposite sex. (some didn't have to pretend, but that's another story). Sara McDougall -----Original Message----- From: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Christopher Crockett Sent: Friday, March 15, 2002 10:20 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: [M-R] Robert of Arbrissel medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture lrna wahlgren <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >A more specific accusation made, however is that he is seeking out a new and unheard-of martyrdom (novum et inauditum genus martyrii) by lying among the women at night, as a test of his ascetism. This seems to ring a bell, I remember something of the kind in The Name of the Rose, where similar accusations against 14th century heretics are mentioned fWiw, in the best of her historical novels (_Destiny of Fire_), Zoe Oldenbourg has her albigensian heritic "preacher" going around the countryside in mixed company, i believe. fiction, yes; and from the 50s, yes; but all of Z.O.'s medieval novels are quite well founded on original sources, it seems to me. beats reading all that dry, akademical prose, at least (but, alas, probably not citable in your own dry, akdemical prose). christopher ********************************************************************** To join the list, send the message: join medieval-religion YOUR NAME to: [log in to unmask] To send a message to the list, address it to: [log in to unmask] To leave the list, send the message: leave medieval-religion to: [log in to unmask] In order to report problems or to contact the list's owners, write to: [log in to unmask] For further information, visit our web site: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/medieval-religion.html ********************************************************************** To join the list, send the message: join medieval-religion YOUR NAME to: [log in to unmask] To send a message to the list, address it to: [log in to unmask] To leave the list, send the message: leave medieval-religion to: [log in to unmask] In order to report problems or to contact the list's owners, write to: [log in to unmask] For further information, visit our web site: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/medieval-religion.html