Simon, Your point (b) is the important issue that I noted in my e-mail. Has anyone addressed the issue of variable cation order on cordierite stability? eric >Hello all, > >I have been alerted to the recent exchange of emails re >cordierite volatiles. With Damian Carrington and Pauline >Thompson I have been (experimentally and theotertically) >working on H2O and CO2 uptake in cordierite for the past >n years, where n>6. The good news is that we have >determined the uptake of H2O and CO2 as functions of >P,T, aH2O and aCO2, and have working models that I >think do a pretty good job of allowing one to estimate >aH2O and aCO2 from cordierite volatile contents providing >a) P and T are known/estimated independently, and b) >the cordierite channels have remained 'closed' since that - >T condition (I could go on about leakage vs non-leakage >and also about reequilibration ad nauseum). > >Basically it is clear that aH2O is proportional to n/(1-n) in >'normal' cordierites (low Na, Be, Li), and that aCO2 is >proportional to m/(1-m). n is the number of molecules of >H2O per unit formula, m is the number of molecules of >CO2 per unit formula (18 oxygens volatile free crd). > >The H2O model has, somewhat conveniently, just come >out in JPetrol: > >The Distribution of H2O between Cordierite and Granitic >Melt: H2O Incorporation in Cordierite and its Application >to High-grade Metamorphism and Crustal Anatexis > S. L. HARLEY and D. P. CARRINGTON > J. Petrology 2001;42 1595-1620. > >whilst the CO2 model and discussion will appear in JMG >soon: >Cordierite as a sensor of fluid conditions in high-grade >metamorphism and crustal anatexis >S.L. Harley, P. Thompson, B.J. Hensen and I.S. Buick > >and will be fully described (with the experimental basis >etc) in our papers soon to appear in CMP and later one to >go to JoP. > >The H2O expression you need (from H&C and in H et al) >is: >aH2O = [n/(1-n)]{exp[(4203 (±320))/T -11.75 (±0.33)]/fH2O} > >The CO2 expression you need (in H et al) is: >aCO2 = [m/(1-m)]{exp[(3073 (±200)- (0.3023P))/T - >13.1(±1.2)]/fCO2} > >from these you can calculate the activities using >measured H2O and CO2 contents in the cordierite, which >we do using SIMS at Edinburgh (see the website at >www.glg.ed.ac.uk and tunnel down into the SIMS >section). > >In response to Erics comment that non-one has looked >into this, the above information demonstrates that it is >very much being looked at. If you want to go back further >then you can read Kurepins paper: > >Kurepin, V. A., 1984. H2O and CO2 contents of cordierite >as an indicator of thermodynamical conditions of >formation. Geokhimiya, 8, 1125-1134. > >However, as explained in our work, Kurepins models >involving n and m actually contravene the phase rule in >assuming (implicitly) a coupling between H2O and CO2 >contents in cordierite that ends up being independent of >either one of aH2O or aCO2... the devil is in the details. >As a consequence one cannot calculate aCO2 or aH2O >correctly using the Kurepin model, and we (of course !) >recommend our new models as briefly given above. > >Cheers, > >Simon Harley > > >================================================ >Simon Harley FRSE >Professor of Lower Crustal Processes >Department of Geology & Geophysics >University of Edinburgh >Kings Buildings, West Mains Road >EDINBURGH, EH9 3JW, SCOTLAND > >phone: (44) 0131 650 8547 >fax: (44) 0131 668 3184 >email: [log in to unmask] >+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Eric Essene Professor of Geology Department of Geological Sciences 2534 C.C. Little Bldg. 425 E. University Ave. University of Michigan Ann Arbor MI 48109-1063 USA fx: 734-763-4690 ph: 734-764-8243