Here follows a private post from Rob Curedale reposted to Ph.D.-design with his permission. This suggests the specific virtues of IDFORUM. It also suggests how Internet communication is changing many professions today, our own among them. My point in posting the earlier note on IDFORUM is that we need both kinds of fora. Good practice requires the development of better research -- as medicine once did -- and good research requires rich engagement with practice. The challenge in design is that the fields and disciplines of design are -- and will remain -- integrative frames involving many kinds of research and many kinds of practice. This is what makes design so broad and challenging to cover, a domain with what often seems like far too much information. Consequently, people sometimes grow impatient, feeling that a forum is bad, rather than simply saying, "I can't use this specific information" or "This thread isn't useful to me." Many good threads occur on IDFORUM. I have always been aware of the value of IDFORUM as a valuable educational resource. Now, reading Rob's post, I am also aware that IDFORUM has become an important international meeting place for practicing design professionals. -- Ken Friedman Here follows Rob's post: Over recent months I have met a number of subscribers to idForum face to face. Today I was discussing offline with one consultant the large number of clients who seem to be designing the same product in the US at the moment. We had together come across close on 20 separate companies. I spoke to a couple of people at the recent IDSA conference in New Orleans who are design managers at major US companies who are connected to idForum as well as designers from a number of consultancies. I organized recently for an article to be published in a new Design Journal in London through a contact made on idForum. The editor is connected to idForum and is using the Forum to get feedback on the magazine's content. I am currently contributing to a book on design research being written by one of the group members. I received an email today from a Spanish designer who I had worked with in Silicon Valley but who first met me virtually on idForum when in Spain. I received two emails off line recently from designers working in isolated environments saying that idForum was their only connection to other industrial designers and that they very much valued being connected. I received an email today offline from one of the world's major design software companies who are using members of the list to develop ideas for the next big conceptual step forward in the development of their products. I have read postings from academics who have been annoyed that people discuss materials technology on idForum. Well, that is industrial design. But maybe those people's interests lie somewhere else. idForum like all groups is only the sum of efforts of those willing to contribute and it takes some positive effort to contribute positively. It is as far as I know the most extensive industrial design web group in terms of people connected. A print out of the people connected shows members from many of the most influential industrial design organizations in the world. Including the RCA, Art Center, manufacturers like Bose, Sun and Minolta. idForum can be like question time in a large auditorium. The auditorium is the world but it still takes people with motivation to ask intelligent questions for everyone to consider. In this area of the world where designers are nomadic (the average length of tenure at some of the Bay companies is 5 to 8 months) idForum offers a way to stay in touch across the world. I believe that at some point in the near future, books and articles will be superseded by dynamic information gathering an editing tools which collect contributions from controlled sources and put them together into one digital document which is updated continually. A reference from a large number of sources which is never out of date. This offers a new democracy of knowledge, access to millions of brains in real time. So let's stop complaining and start contributing because these forums are all we have. They are the beginning of a useful tool for communication. Rob Curedale %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%