Date sent: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 13:12:04 +0100
Subject: RE: gender again...
From: "Garmendia, Jone" <[log in to unmask]>
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"'Roberts Gomer ADH/ECL'" <[log in to unmask]>
Send reply to: "Garmendia, Jone" <[log in to unmask]>
Strange thing, but I think you might find that in the East of
Scotland most archivists, male and female, seem to be called
Ken, as in 'my name's Smith and I'm looking for my ancestors,
ken' !!!
Sorry
Pat
> Dear all,
>
> I didn't think I had been born in a particularly 're-constructed'
> country but I must say that, in Spain, archivists are 'archiveros'
> or 'archiveras' (sometimes having male and female nouns comes in
> handy...) without any equivalents for love, boi, cont, darling,
> dear, pet... Cardigans are also common in some repositories and I
> heard of a monk trying to relocate some records underneath his
> habit.
>
> I think that the profession was perceived as a female one in Spain.
> I'd say more, information managers and records managers tend to be
> male (the IT connexion, I'm afraid...) whilst there are more women
> archivists.
>
> I do remember a sort of joke... Some years ago a group of colleagues
> in Spain used to called the profession 'La Cuerpa' ('The Body of
> Archivists using the female suffix, insted of the generic but male
> suffix 'El Cuerpo').
>
> One question on another summer subject... do you have a patron saint
> for the archivist profession here in the UK? I recently learnt
> from 'Arxiforum', distribution list for Spanish speaking archivists,
> that Saint Benedict (11 or 12 July) was our patron...
>
> Well, this thread has finally made me come out. I should have sent a
> more serious first e-mail to the list but...
>
> Jone Garmendia
>
>
> > ----------
> > From: Roberts Gomer ADH/ECL[SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
> > Reply To: Roberts Gomer ADH/ECL Sent: 04 August 2000 12:21 To:
> > [log in to unmask] Subject: gender again...
> >
> > Locals in Caernarfon will address each other as 'boi' (boy)
> > as in 'Ti'n iawn boi?' (Are you ok boy).
> > Again non gender specific.
> > However the most disconcerting to visitors is the term 'cont' -
> > no, not the offensive English version with a u, but used in the
> > same manner as above - 'Ti'n iawn cont' Both 'boi' and 'cont' are
> > used whilst speaking both Welsh and English! I have been asked
> > questions by 70 year olds followed by the word 'cont' which can be
> > very very odd when coming from a dear old lady - again sorry to be
> > so ageist and sexist - blame it on my chapel upbringing! Back to
> > work now... Gomer Roberts Document Processing Unit Cyngor Gwynedd
> > Council 01286 682829
> >
>
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