JiscMail Logo
Email discussion lists for the UK Education and Research communities

Help for PHD-DESIGN Archives


PHD-DESIGN Archives

PHD-DESIGN Archives


PHD-DESIGN@JISCMAIL.AC.UK


View:

Message:

[

First

|

Previous

|

Next

|

Last

]

By Topic:

[

First

|

Previous

|

Next

|

Last

]

By Author:

[

First

|

Previous

|

Next

|

Last

]

Font:

Proportional Font

LISTSERV Archives

LISTSERV Archives

PHD-DESIGN Home

PHD-DESIGN Home

PHD-DESIGN  July 2018

PHD-DESIGN July 2018

Options

Subscribe or Unsubscribe

Subscribe or Unsubscribe

Log In

Log In

Get Password

Get Password

Subject:

Re: Why it is hard to use words in a text as cues about our real intentions?

From:

Jinan K B <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

PhD-Design - This list is for discussion of PhD studies and related research in Design <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Sun, 22 Jul 2018 18:37:56 +0530

Content-Type:

text/plain

Parts/Attachments:

Parts/Attachments

text/plain (124 lines)

Really beautiful and sensitive Martin. A much needed reminder.

On Sun 22 Jul, 2018, 00:54 Ricardo Martins, <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> I will try to answer 2 relevant questions, raised recently here:
> Why some people participate in this list, and other don’t?
> Why it is hard to use words as cues about our real intentions?
>
> I've been on this list for some time now.
>
> And I've noticed that people who actively participate are very few (I
> think less than 20).
>
> I feel that, like me, many are very busy, have their daily tasks to be
> done, and so there is little time left to stop and participate in the
> debates.
>
> Others may feel unable to contribute content to the level of the debate
> because they lack experience or more in-depth knowledge.
>
> This little participation is common in other Internet spaces such as
> forums, blogs, facebook groups and social networks in general. Few people
> manifest themselves because to do this it is necessary to:
>
> • have time to read the emails (some extensive),
> • have a relevant response to contribute,
> • take time to write a replica,
> • know how to write.
>
> And these four factors are not always present in our lives.
>
> And it's okay, everyone knows their priorities and the beauty of the
> Internet is to be a free territory where ideas come and go asynchronously.
> In these encounters new insights arise and people learn through respectful
> and cordial dialogue.
>
> Respectful and cordial.
>
> Hmmm.
>
> According to what Meredith Davis said, "Those of us who teach quickly
> learn that influence comes not only through what we say, but also in how we
> say it."
>
> Sometimes I've seen people take intense debates personally, face-to-face,
> making severe criticisms of "THE WORK" of someone else, so that in the end,
> both go out and have a good wine together, as if nothing had happened
> before.
>
> Personally these people had several clues that indicated they were
> attacking ideas, not people. “Hey, I do not like your idea, but I like
> you!” And everything is fine. What are these cues?
>
> The direction of the eyes.
> The position of the eyebrows.
> The posture of the body.
> Hand gestures.
> The volume of the voice.
> The tone of voice.
> The speed of speech.
>
> When we are here in the territory of the written text, it seems that all
> these clues disappear, and we see only the raw text, the naked words,
> without nuances, without irony. It's hard to know when someone is being an
> experienced and wise man we've seen in many of his videos, or just a grumpy
> person who attacks with words.
>
> The clues that indicate whether the person is talking quietly like a
> summer breeze, in a countryside, or is vociferating and acting rudely. The
> cues in a text are usually:
>
> the adjectives,
> the extension of the text,
> THE USE OF HIGH BOX IN SOME PARTS OF THE TEXT,
> the presence or absence of compliments,
> the use of generosity in words ("please", "thanks," you are welcome “).
>
> But, they are not as powerful or precise as in a face-to-face interaction.
>
> Many of the people here who are arguing in an apparently harsch manner, if
> they were face to face, they could be talking happily, with an inviting
> smile, or using an ironic, light-hearted, light-hearted manner.
>
> But the printed text takes away all of these hints and sometimes we feel
> naked, having only words to express what the tone of voice, smile and a
> handshake could say.
>
> The written text has yet another face that is not always pleasant: some
> words seem to "classify" others, making them feel inferior, and many of
> these people will react to any attempt to be classified. of the text, but
> whoever has read can assign a classificatory meaning, which may not even be
> present in the original intentions. As David Berlo said in his book The
> Process of Communication, the meaning is not in words. It is in us. And we
> can be attributing a meaning, an attitude, an intention, which is far from
> what the author originally said.
>
> These are just some reflections on what it is to participate in this
> mailing list, via text, also about the difficulties of finding time to read
> what is said, to respond and to find words that mimic the role of a smile,
> of hands moving in the air, of a kind and well-intentioned look.
>
> And my intention in writing this text was the best. I see all of you as
> people with whom I learn new insights, almost as teachers I watch as I form
> my own opinion. And I know that no one here woke up in the morning thinking
> about who hurt other with their words, or how to defend a pseudo-territory
> or reputation. We all just want to talk, drink good wine and thank for our
> gift: to be wiser when we talk to wiser people.
>
> Ricardo Martins
> Professor
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
> PhD-Design mailing list  <[log in to unmask]>
> Discussion of PhD studies and related research in Design
> Subscribe or Unsubscribe at https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/phd-design
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
>


-----------------------------------------------------------------
PhD-Design mailing list  <[log in to unmask]>
Discussion of PhD studies and related research in Design
Subscribe or Unsubscribe at https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/phd-design
-----------------------------------------------------------------

Top of Message | Previous Page | Permalink

JiscMail Tools


RSS Feeds and Sharing


Advanced Options


Archives

August 2018
July 2018
June 2018
May 2018
April 2018
March 2018
February 2018
January 2018
December 2017
November 2017
October 2017
September 2017
August 2017
July 2017
June 2017
May 2017
April 2017
March 2017
February 2017
January 2017
December 2016
November 2016
October 2016
September 2016
August 2016
July 2016
June 2016
May 2016
April 2016
March 2016
February 2016
January 2016
December 2015
November 2015
October 2015
September 2015
August 2015
July 2015
June 2015
May 2015
April 2015
March 2015
February 2015
January 2015
December 2014
November 2014
October 2014
September 2014
August 2014
July 2014
June 2014
May 2014
April 2014
March 2014
February 2014
January 2014
December 2013
November 2013
October 2013
September 2013
August 2013
July 2013
June 2013
May 2013
April 2013
March 2013
February 2013
January 2013
December 2012
November 2012
October 2012
September 2012
August 2012
July 2012
June 2012
May 2012
April 2012
March 2012
February 2012
January 2012
December 2011
November 2011
October 2011
September 2011
August 2011
July 2011
June 2011
May 2011
April 2011
March 2011
February 2011
January 2011
December 2010
November 2010
October 2010
September 2010
August 2010
July 2010
June 2010
May 2010
April 2010
March 2010
February 2010
January 2010
December 2009
November 2009
October 2009
September 2009
August 2009
July 2009
June 2009
May 2009
April 2009
March 2009
February 2009
January 2009
December 2008
November 2008
October 2008
September 2008
August 2008
July 2008
June 2008
May 2008
April 2008
March 2008
February 2008
January 2008
December 2007
November 2007
October 2007
September 2007
August 2007
July 2007
June 2007
May 2007
April 2007
March 2007
February 2007
January 2007
2006
2005
2004
2003
2002
2001
2000
1999
1998


JiscMail is a Jisc service.

View our service policies at https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/policyandsecurity/ and Jisc's privacy policy at https://www.jisc.ac.uk/website/privacy-notice

Secured by F-Secure Anti-Virus CataList Email List Search Powered by the LISTSERV Email List Manager