Yes, I know the site and the papers. Inveterate web farmer that you are, I
knew that you would come back with a useful list for folks.
On 4/29/07 12:29 PM, "Ken Friedman" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Hi, Dick,
> If this topic interests you, visit the AoIR web site:
> While I am no longer active in Internet research, I still subscribe
> to the newsletter. That's why I suggested this as a good source. I
> didn't go into this too deeply because there are many issues and I
> know you like it best when I keep my comments short and to-the-point
> Chris raises important issues. They have been the subject of many
> journal articles and book chapters over the past decade and a half.
> The AoIR is an excellent starting point if this really interests you.
> I hope no one assumed I was treating Ates's query as ONLY a matter of
> editorial style. Nevertheless, Ates did ask about editorial style so
> I answered. I also suggested he look more deeply into developing
> standards and practice -- I assumed that this includes ethical
> issues. The first edition The Columbia Guide only touched on this in
> terms of copyright and possible permissions. I don't have the second
> edition, so I don't know whether Walker and Taylor go deeper.
> In contrast, the issues Chris raises ARE subject to careful and
> extensive examination in the document that the AoIR published on
> Internet research ethics. This is an articulate, carefully argued and
> richly referenced discussion of these issues up to 2002 when the
> members approved it. The members approved the document in 2002, but
> the discussion on these issues continues.
> One footnote. While I understand Chris's caution in quoting a
> publicly archived list such as PhD-Design, the question has to do
> with value or usefulness of information. Open JISCMAIL lists such as
> this are public, archived lists. JISC compares statements on public
> lists with the opinions expressed in a letter to the editor published
> in a newspaper.
> Your comment on hallway conversation would cover closed boards or
> chat rooms, but a list such as this sometimes involves more.
> PhD-Design is a forum that ranges from conversation and chat to
> serious statements and even to formal on-line conferences. While one
> should not make more of a statement than the author intends, some of
> the threads here are usable primary sources of opinion on the topics
> they take up. JISC policy governing use of list posts is this: "When
> you post to a public list you do not lose copyright, but your message
> may be, archived, forwarded to other lists and quoted by others ...
> Messages sent to a list should not be quoted out of context, changed
> in any way, reworded or mis-attributed."
> As you recently noted, someone who wishes to make an authoritative
> statement should put it forward for publication in a journal. Between
> chat rooms and journals, there are many different forms of
> publication and public conversation -- something that Steve Harnad
> and Chris Rust have both noted in valuable non-journal publications.
> Richard Buchanan wrote:
> But I would like to see a paper on this matter. Actually, there
> probably is such a paper by someone--and I will wait for the web
> farmer of our list to tell us what it is.