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Subject:

Re: Open educational resources/practices meets software version control (Git)

From:

Pat Lockley <[log in to unmask]>

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Open Educational Resources <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Mon, 2 Apr 2012 16:58:36 +0100

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Following on from Kate's email

http://blogs.oucs.ox.ac.uk/ww1centenary/?p=86

Doesn't this start to question the publisher - consumer model? If we
assume everyone is a remixer, don't we ignore the fact that a remixer
might actually be an improver, and the original version gets better?
Also then we can move away from an "author" as an individual, to an
author as a community.

We'd happily share our KML into jorum (to tie it into git).


On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 4:21 PM, Peter Reed <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Hi all
>
> Would this depend on the granularity of the object? A whole course from MIT or OU probably doesn't need packaging and put elsewhere, so the one place might be suitable for both 'users' and 'reusers'.
>
> Not sure if data exists but a) do learners value the finer little OERs (might be a separate debate) b) is google THE 'aggregator' or 'finder'
>
> Peter Reed
> Lecturer & eLearning Coordinator
> Digital Media & Entertainment Technology
> School of Computing, Maths & Digital Technology
> Faculty of Science & Engineering
>
> On 2 Apr 2012, at 16:03, Lorna Campbell <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>> Hi there,
>>
>> All interesting ideas!  I can certainly see the attraction of using a platform like Git to managing the sharing and reuse of educational resources.
>>
>> Regarding the issue of whether it has been a help or a hinderance trying to meet the needs of  educators-seeking-reusable-materials and people-seeking-learning in the same platforms, I guess I'm not sure.  I  think in a way this highlights that we still have a lot to learn about how both educators and learners engage and interact with resources.  We make a lot of assumptions about what learners and educators want and I wonder how often these assumptions are based on real world practice?  Something for further investigation perhaps?
>>
>> Cheers
>> Lorna
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2 Apr 2012, at 13:41, Amber THOMAS wrote:
>>
>> I've been thinking a lot about what we can learn from open source world.
>>
>> I think one of them is that open source separate out where the software plays/runs for end users, and where the software is exchanged between developers. Sourceforge, github, openstack are for developers. It provides them with the reusable code and tools for orchestrating that code.
>> All that is hidden to the general end user.
>>
>> I can't help wondering if trying to meet the needs of educators-seeking-reusable-materials in the same platform as people-seeking-learning is bound to confuse most people and frustrate open practitioners.
>>
>> Perhaps we should go for an OER Version approach (see end of http://infteam.jiscinvolve.org/wp/2010/12/10/rethinking-the-o-in-oer/ )
>>
>> Put content that is CC licenced in the places where the public are
>> Let it mix freely with other sorts of open content: research papers, music, images, Wikipedia.
>> But as well as cc licence, add an OER logo (could even be the blue hands one recently launched)
>> Clicking that logo takes you to the OER version on the providers website or specialist OER platform - editable flash file, the downloadable mp3, the MS office word processed / slides ...
>>
>> i.e like "you can get this on sourceforge" but without having to lead end users to an unfamiliar and intimidating specialist environment
>>
>> that way we could separate out advocacy to educators to reuse from advocacy of free open remixable content
>>
>> the threshold for OER can stay high, but without slowing the supply of less deliberately educational-reuse-focussed openly licensed content.
>>
>>
>> hmmmm.
>>
>>
>> Amber
>>
>>
>> Amber Thomas
>> Programme Manager: digital infrastructure, learning materials, IPR
>> Innovation Group
>> Joint Information Systems Committee (JISC)
>> email: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>
>> twitter: @ambrouk
>> mobile: +44 (0) 7920 534 933
>> website: www.jisc.ac.uk<http://www.jisc.ac.uk>
>> team blog: http://infteam.jiscinvolve.org/wp/
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Open Educational Resources [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley
>> Sent: 02 April 2012 11:37
>> To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>
>> Subject: Re: Open educational resources/practices meets software version control (Git)
>>
>> Here is one
>>
>> https://github.com/ehec-outbreak-crowdsourced
>>
>> Which provides for the quite REF like contributions graph
>>
>> https://github.com/ehec-outbreak-crowdsourced/BGI-data-analysis/graphs/impact
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 11:22 AM, Martin Hawksey
>> <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> If you are doing any community based software development you've probably
>> heard of Git for those that haven't it's basically a tool/method for
>> creating and sharing different versions of code.
>>
>>
>>
>> I've come across a couple of examples recently where Git is being used
>> outside of software development, sharing files instead of code, mainly
>> around art projects. I've also found a new syllabus sharing service based on
>> Git called ClassConnect. Still an emerging area but might be worth
>> considering if you are thinking about alternative models for repositories.
>>
>>
>>
>> Links and more information here
>> http://mashe.hawksey.info/2012/03/do-you-git-it-open-educational-resourcespractices-meets-software-version-control/
>> (check out the comments for extra links to things).
>>
>>
>>
>> If you have any questions about this get in touch.
>>
>>
>>
>> Martin
>>
>>
>>
>> Martin Hawksey
>> JISC CETIS
>>
>>
>> e: [log in to unmask]
>> w: http://jisc.cetis.ac.uk
>> t: 0141 5483072
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Lorna M. Campbell
>> JISC CETIS Assistant Director
>> University of Strathclyde
>> Glasgow
>> Email: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>
>> Phone: +44141 548 3072
>> Skype: lorna120768
>>
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