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From: Judy Singer <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Friday, October 01, 1999 2:05 PM
Subject: What does the Let's-Silence--Singer camp want?
> I'm getting confused, and I'd like to hear from members of the the
> Silence-Singer camp how they see a Womman's Right to Choose.
Judy --
I think if you _really_ would like to hear about these things, you would
make the request in a less insulting manner. No "camp" has tried to "Silence
Singer". That's your own distortion. Singer's Defenders (SDs) very
frequently complain that Singer's Critics (SCs) have not read Singer's work.
But SDs frequently don't bother to read the words of SCs either. The
Princeton protest was about Singer's appointment to a prestigious post, not
about his freedom to speak and write.
> Now Singer has said that he thinks that a woman who knows she has a
> child with a disability and wants to abort it - or even kill it - should
> first talk to disability advocates and representatives of the particular
> disability before making her decision.
> What more can you want???
First, I keep hearing about Singer changing his views, but I haven't
actually seen any references. Do you have one? (I'm not denying that they
exist, I just see more chat about it than citation.)
Second, you report that Singer now thinks that a woman should consult with
disability advocate _before killing it her disabled child_ (!!!!) and then
you ask "what more can you want???"
What an odd question! I can want her not to kill it, of course, and I can
want such killing to be illegal. That's easy. Did you really think that
people opposed to the infanticide of disabled children would be satisfied if
they were just _consulted_ before the killing?
> Or should anyone who wants to have an abortion first have to do
> pre-natal testing so that she can only abort if the foetus is normal?
Again with the sarcasm. As has also frequently been stated, Not Dead Yet
(the group in the front of the Princeton protest) takes no position on
abortion. Some members are pro-life and some members are pro-choice. Singer
and some conservative pro-lifers have argued that abortion is tantamout to
infanticide and so people who are pro-choice on abortion should be
pro-choice on infanticide too. The pro-choice NDY members obviously
disagree. You seem to side with Singer and those pro-lifers on that
question. Do you really agree with them that there is no significant
difference between abortion and infanticide?
> Democracy: you let people speak without muzzling and censorship, give
> them the options, engage in the struggle to make sure they're fair, but
> let the individual choose.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. See above.
> Judy Singer
Ron
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Ron Amundson
University of Hawaii at Hilo
Hilo, HI 96720
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