HE is responsible of course... These are tragic cases and, yes, I blame the
withdrawal of state support. But at what level of causation are you talking
about?
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> From: Mairian Corker <[log in to unmask]>
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Crime Victims With Disabilities
> Date: 17 May 1999 14:01
>
> No Michael, not reality check, at least not the kind of reality you're
> talking which reflects the usual stereotypes. More a case of double
> standards, and widely and prejudicially reported in the
national/disability
> press last year. If the disabled man was persuaded to give up the
> medication which controlled his mental illness because 'God could answer
> all his problems' AND he fell through a loophole in Community Care
> legislation because the various services argued about who was responsible
> for him to the extent that no-one took responsibility, who exactly is
> responsible for his 'diminished responsibility' whilst committing murder
-
> what happened to laws about aiding and abetting? Whether or not we
believe
> that murder is always wrong, whatever the circumstances, it is clear that
> the law interprets situations like this in different ways from an
> international perspective. What interests me is that there also ought to
be
> a social model perspective on this because, surely its a 'system
failure'?
> Your view would presumably be 'so what, as the guy 'responsible' has been
> locked up for life' and so maybe it is of no interest to you that he is
> locked up in a place where no-one can communicate with him (he's deaf and
> uses sign language) while the system continues to breed disease.
> Personally, I think the law is an ass!
>
> Best wishes
>
>
> Mairian
>
>
> >Sorry? You wrote 'I'd like to see some parallel discussion of the
> >
> >>concepts of 'crime victim,' because in this case, all the press
(including
> >
> >>the disability press) focused on the murder 'victim' and 'blamed' the
> >
> >>disabled man.'
> >Did not the disabled man actually kill the murder victim?
> >Time for a reality check on your part methinks!
> >
> >----------
> >> From: Devva Kasnitz <[log in to unmask]>; [log in to unmask]
> >> To: [log in to unmask]
> >> Subject: Re: Crime Victims With Disabilities
> >> Date: 16 May 1999 21:33
> >>
> >> Let's have an informal talk about this at SDS!
> >>
> >>
> >> devva
> >>
> >>
> >> At 10:07 AM 5/15/99 +0100, you wrote:
> >>
> >> >Dona wrote about the 'Crime victims with disabilities act.' I'm
> >currently
> >>
> >> >writing a paper about mental illness, disability and
> >institutionalisation.
> >>
> >> >One of the 'cases' I look at involves a disabled person who, because
of
> >>
> >> >widespread 'system failure' ended up committing a serious crime for
> >which
> >>
> >> >he was institutionalised in a secure mental hospital for life. If
Dona's
> >>
> >> >post sparks a discussion, I'd like to see some parallel discussion of
> >the
> >>
> >> >concepts of 'crime victim,' because in this case, all the press
> >(including
> >>
> >> >the disability press) focused on the murder 'victim' and 'blamed' the
> >>
> >> >disabled man. In fact the disability press were worse in this
respect.
> >>
> >> >Comments please
> >>
> >> >
> >>
> >> >Best
> >>
> >> >
> >>
> >> >
> >>
> >> >Mairian
> >>
> >> >
> >>
> >> ><<snip>
> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> >> >>Many of you have followed the progress of U.S. Senate Bill 1976
"Crime
> >>
> >> >>Victims with Disabilities Awareness Act" (to see the full Bill, go
to
> >>
> >> >>http://thomas.loc.gov and search the 105th Congress, then SB 1976).
> >This
> >>
> >> >>Bill, signed by President Clinton in 1998, mandated the first-ever
> >national
> >>
> >> >>study of crime victims with disabilities, and originally asked for
> >$850,000
> >>
> >> >>to complete the research (and other work mandated by the Bill)....
> >>
> >> >
> >>
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> >>
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> >>
> >> >"To understand what I am doing, you need a third eye"
> >>
> >> >
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> >>
> >> >
> >>
> >> >Mairian Corker
> >>
> >> >Senior Research Fellow in Deaf and Disability Studies
> >>
> >> >University of Central Lancashire
> >>
> >> >
> >>
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> >>
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> >>
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> >>
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> >>
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> Mairian Corker
> Senior Research Fellow in Deaf and Disability Studies
> University of Central Lancashire
>
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> Highbury
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> U.K.
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