Ah yes, 80-plus years (1917 to date) of communist experience--with the 70
million body count and other devastations I referred to--are not ENOUGH
evidence to convict communism ITSELF of being a very bad social/economic
SYSTEM. Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, Castro, et al just didn't follow carefully
enough the DIRECTIONS Marx included in his package!
Charles
At 11:30 AM 4/8/99 +0100, you wrote:
>
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>Charles Mueller wrote:
>
>> One of our members, Gaynor Barrett of the UK, takes me to task
for lacking
>> an adequate grasp of communism--
>
>and
>
> My graduate work in Soviet economics goes back several decades but I'm
>convinced that I can still define communism--
>
>and
>
>Communism/socialism/Marxism, letus be clear, has a tragic real-world
record--one
>immeasurably worse thaneven that of its ideological conqueror, capitalism.
>
>Charles it seems to me you're more pressing topic for investigation amy be
the
>combatitive paradigm you seem to employ in your appreciation of the last
50myears and
>its outcome(not that the process is at all finished). The 'ideological
conqueror' line
>is pure cold war rhetoric that assisted both sides as the times wore on, but
>increasingly came to be empployed prety exclusively by Reagan et al as the US
>perfected its role as global prefect.
>
>Enough said...as Im sure you're aware, having anti monopoly sites in your
name,
>capitalism as its theorised exists nowhere either, aws neither did
communism as it was
>thorised. Its a furphy of a debate. But it is silly to assign blame to a
system that
>was only ever implemented in a perverted form for anything...
>
>bigger fish to fry...
>
>alan bamford
>
>--
>"Now, it is clear that the decline of a language must ultimately have
political and
>economic causes: it is not due simply to the bad influence of this or that
individual
>writer. But an effect can become a cause, reinforcing the original cause
and producing
>the same effect in an intensified form, and so on indefinately. A man may
take to
>drink because he feels himself to be a failure, and then fail all the more
completely
>because he drinks. It is rather the same thing that is happening to the
English
>language. It becomes ugly and inaccurate because our thoughts are foolish,
but the
>slovenliness of our language makes it easier for us to have foolish
thoughts."
>
>George Orwell.
>
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