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Subject: VICTORIA Digest - 22 Apr 1999 to 23 Apr 1999 (#1999-4)
There are 11 messages totalling 272 lines in this issue.
Topics of the day:
1. George Eliot quotation (2)
2. offending letters
3. Gaelic dictionary
4. Victorian peace movements
5. Rodney Shewan
6. introduction
7. Arts and Letters Daily
8. England as "Mother" (2)
9. Identity of Punch artist
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Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 22:04:30 -0700
From: Sheldon Goldfarb <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: George Eliot quotation
In the close but no cigar category:
The river is within us, the sea is all about us;
The sea is the land's edge also, the granite
Into which it reaches, the beaches where it tosses
Its hints of earlier and other creation:
The starfish, the horseshoe crab, the whale's backbone;
The pools where it offers to our curiosity
The more delicate algae and the SEA ANEMONE.
It tosses up our losses, the torn seine,
The shattered lobsterpot, the broken oar
And the gear of foreign dead men. The sea has many voices,
Many gods and many voices.
Wrong Eliot unfortunately.
Sheldon Goldfarb
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Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 23:53:37 -0700
From: Jack Kolb <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: offending letters
The most notorious case that I know about in the past few years was the
publication of Joyce's intimate 1909 letters to Nora, in the Cornell
University Library, published in Selected Joyce Letters, edited by Richard
Ellmann (1975). One assumes that these are about as sexually explicit as
letters of the time might have been, or perhaps any letters might be; they
also show an incredibly wide range of feelings, all of course eloquently
expressed, of Joyce to his (future) wife.
Almost everyone agrees that these documents (saved by Nora) should have been
published; Joyce's grandson, Stephen, however, took the opportunity to
destroy, mostly as a result of this publication, all of the family
correspondence he had control over. Stephen Joyce has consistently and
bitterly criticized Joyce scholars for infringing upon the private lives of
his grandfather and other family members.
Jack Kolb
Dept. of English, UCLA
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Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 03:53:08 EDT
From: Diana Birchall <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Gaelic dictionary
To answer Karen Crosser - I have a very nice Gaelic dictionary. Entitled
(approximate transcription of Gaelic type) Focloir Gaedlse asus bearla - An
Irish-English Dictionary, being a thesaurus of the words, phrases and idioms
of the modern Irish language. Compiled and edited by Rev. Patrick S.
Dinneen, M.A., pub. 1927, Dublin, for the Irish Texts Society by the
Educational Company of Ireland. It's a nice chunky volume, 1,344 pages.
This is a fairly new facsimile reprint that my husband picked up in Dublin
for nine pounds on our last trip there, about 4 years ago. I can't remember
exactly where he got it, but it was most likely Hanna's bookshop in Dublin or
else Kennys in Galway. Kennys is on line, website <http://www.kennys.ie> or
e-mail address is <[log in to unmask]>. If you e-mail them, they'll surely tell
you where you can find such a dictionary. (Phone is 353.91.562739, fax
353.91.568544) They're a great store. I don't have Hanna's particulars to
hand, but they'd be easy to locate. We also have a nice English-Irish
Dictionary, edited by Tomas de Bhaldraithe, published by Mt. Salus Press in
1987, paperback, cost about eight pounds. You can no doubt order it from the
same source. Also, have you tried the Internet UK book buying service, or
Amazon UK?
- Diana Birchall
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Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 09:10:24 +0100
From: Christopher M Baggs <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: George Eliot quotation
Carol,
it wasn't just Ilfracombe. Eliot (although I dont think she was using the name
at the time) also went with Lewes to Tenby in South Wales. Tenby was quite a
fashionable place in the 1850s for marine studies, and was also visited by
the Gosse family and Thomas Huxley during this period.
Chris Baggs,
Department of Information and Library Stuides,
University of Wales, Aberystwyth
In message <[log in to unmask]>,
Carol Martin <[log in to unmask]> writes:
> I can place the quotation in Eliot (unless it is in one of her letters =
> from 1857), but it sounds like something from George Henry Lewes's =
> "Seaside Studies," published in installments in Blackwoods Edinburgh =
> Magazine in 1857. Eliot accompanied him on his seaside researches in =
> Ilfracombe =AF so perhaps she has a comment in her journals about that =
> time. The new Harris-Johnston edition of the journals (Cambridge UP 1998) =
> would be the place to check.
> Carol Martin
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Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 08:19:26 -0500
From: "Lawrence S. Poston" <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Victorian peace movements
Take a look at Elizabeth Isichei's _Victorian Quakers_
(Oxford, 1970).
Lawrence Poston
University of Illinois at Chicago
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Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 10:48:26 -0500
From: David Lenander <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Rodney Shewan
would anyone on this list know the whereabouts or how to contact Rodney Shewan,
author of _Oscar Wilde: Art and Egotism_. Please reply offlist. Thanks.
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Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 11:54:31 -0400
From: Michael Michie <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: introduction
Hello Victorianists,
I have just joined the listserve and would like to indicate my interests and ask
a question. I teach the History of Political Thought, and my research interests
are 19th century British (especally Scottish) studies; also nationalism,
colonialism and colonial identities (especially New Zealand). My book "An
Enlightenment Tory in Victorian Scotland: the Career of Sir Archibald Alison"
was published by McGill-Queen's and Tuckwell in 1997.
I'm starting to work on emigration literature and the work of emigration agents,
with reference to New Zealand. There was a flood of handbooks and emigration
manuals in the 1840s and 50s; some of the authors were pretty much simple
propagandists for land or shiping companies (although no less interesting for
that!); others had a wider social purpose. One of the latter was Thomas
Cholmondeley, who wrote "Ultima Thule: or Thoughts Suggested by a Residence in
New Zealand" in 1854. Can anyone give me more information about Cholmondeley
(described by the New Zealand historian James Belich as "a remarkable social
philosopher who foreshadowed Charles Darwin, Henry George and almost everyone
else.")?
Thanks,
Michael Michie,
Department of Political Science,
Atkinson College, York University,
Toronto M3J 1P3 Ontario, Canada
Tel: (416) 736 2100 x40174
Fax: (416) 736-5662
email: [log in to unmask]
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Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 09:03:07 -0700
From: Laurence Jarvik <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Arts and Letters Daily
Just thought that VICTORIA list members might enjoy
reading coverage of literature in "Arts and Letters
Daily" which can be found at:
http://www.cybereditions.com/aldaily
===
Laurence A. Jarvik
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Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 15:43:42 EDT
From: [log in to unmask]
Subject: England as "Mother"
Hello all,
I'm doing a paper for a Post-colonial class and was wondering if anyone knows
where I can look for images of England/Queen Vic as Mother to the colony as
Child.
thank you.
susan
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Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 19:30:06 -0600
From: gail t houston <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: England as "Mother"
see: A Cartoon HIstory of teh Monarchy for a good punch cartoon of QV as
mother to the colonies, gail houston
On Fri, 23 Apr 1999 [log in to unmask] wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> I'm doing a paper for a Post-colonial class and was wondering if anyone knows
> where I can look for images of England/Queen Vic as Mother to the colony as
> Child.
>
> thank you.
>
> susan
>
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Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 02:53:06 +0100
From: Malcolm Shifrin <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Identity of Punch artist
Can anyone help with information about, and/or the identity of, the artist whose
cartoons were published in Punch in the mid-1860s and who signed him/herself "DM"?
Or perhaps there is an easily available book about Punch artists?
Private replies are probably more appropriate.
Many thanks.
Malcolm
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