I agree Andrew. It's for the relevant LPA to take such a position, as they're the ones at risk of appeal for non-determination if it's found to be a disproportionate requirement.
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From: Issues related to Historic Environment Records <[log in to unmask]> On Behalf Of Minting, Andrew
Sent: 18 December 2019 15:09
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Subject: Re: Statement on front page of Heritage Gateway
Personally, I don't think it would be appropriate for the Gateway to dictate such a position, its role is to facilitate access to information; decisions on what will and won't be accepted for an application are for each LPA to make. Not all HERs appear on the gateway, and with respect to buildings, for the moment at least, there may be more useful resources elsewhere. Furthermore, to which applications would you apply the rule? All planning apps within x metres of any heritage asset? The NPPF gives the LPA the hook with which to require the applicant to provide an adequate heritage assessment, but (sadly) the LPA cannot refuse to register/accept an application that comes with one that isn't up to scratch. In situations where the heritage impact is unclear, or the potential for previously unknown heritage interest has been identified during the application, the case officer (or heritage specialist) should normally go back to the applicant during the app process and advise that they need more information, possibly adding that without it consent is unlikely to be granted. Guidance on heritage statements to send to agents is available from HE - https://historicengland.org.uk/images-books/publications/statements-heritage-significance-advice-note-12/. Many applications are for works that would have little or no impact on a heritage asset, and this may be readily discerned with or without reference to the HER - although it suggests the bare minimum of research would include reference to the HER, the NPPF does also stress the need for requests for information to be 'proportionate'.
Anyway, merry Christmas!
Andrew
(HG partnership board)
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From: Issues related to Historic Environment Records <[log in to unmask]> On Behalf Of Richard Watts
Sent: 18 December 2019 13:00
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Subject: Statement on front page of Heritage Gateway
Hello all,
I hope you're all well!
One of our team members recently attended one of the CIfA workshops on Desk Based Assessments, about how the current process could be improved, and it's prompted a few discussions here. One of the key things we noted was the need for developers to properly consult the respective HER for their proposed development sites, and not just rely on the more limited data that many of us make available through Heritage Gateway. I know the Heritage Gateway has a statement on the front page, saying:
'Please note that local HER records contain much more detailed information than is currently available here. Please contact the relevant authority direct for all planning matters or queries relating to their records.'
This doesn't seem to be quite strongly worded enough for us, however, and I wondered if we might collectively be interested in trying to beef that up? Archwilio (the Welsh version of Heritage Gateway) gives the following statement on their front page, which does seem better, but still possibly not strong enough:
'Commercial projects undertaken as part of the development management process should not rely solely on the information available via Archwilio. Further information should be sought directly from the staff at the relevant Trust via that Trust's Enquiries page.'
I'm not sure if everyone else agrees, but we were thinking here that the statement ought to say something along the lines that DBAs/Heritage Statements/etc. that are conducted without doing a full HER search will not be accepted for the purposes of informing planning applications. We were thinking that it would be useful to more explicitly state what some of the minimum standards for these documents should be. Does that sound helpful to others?
Merry Christmas to all, by the way! Wishing you all the best for the New Year too!
Richard Watts
Lincolnshire County Council
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