> On 5 Dec 2018, at 14:15, Alessandra Forti <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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> PS CVMFS is not good for small scale groups or groups that don't have an established code. We should discuss containers.
I think that is rather sweeping.
I know of more than one solution for making cvmfs easiy to use for small teams (here at RAL and also at Nikhef). There are surely more. And once you have your software on cvmfs it has many large advantages.
This is not to say that containers don’t have their place. (Of course they work /really/ well unpacked and distributed via cvmfs.)
—Ian
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> On 05/12/2018 14:11, Alessandra Forti wrote:
>> Hi Alastair,
>>
>> On 05/12/2018 13:07, Alastair Dewhurst wrote:
>>> Hi All
>>>
>>> Sorry for the late reminder but I was waiting for Dave B email (To Grid or not to Grid?) to be sent round.
>>>
>>> We will have another technical meeting on Friday 7th December on “Onboarding new communities”. This will be in two parts:
>>> 1) I will start with a description of the plans for the Tier-1 to provide direct batch system access for (some) new communities. The intention is that this would introduce them to some of the aspects of the Grid (e.g. CVMFS) but still keep it easily accessible. If the requirements of the VO grow then we would move them towards using the GridPP DIRAC instance. The Tier-1 is obviously not the only site that can onboard new communities and often the site that the VO contact is based is the best place to introduce people to the Grid. We should therefore try and align the services we offer. I would appreciate feedback on my plans for the Tier-1, I want people to feel that this will benefit all GridPP sites.
>>>
>> this is how we did it with LSST. First direct access and then Dirac, then file catalogue. I cannot say they appreciated it considering they are showing around a "post-mortem" which is one of the reason you are now sending this email.
>>
>> cheers
>> alessandra
>>
>>> 2) We should have a discussion about how best to describe the problems people will face if they need to use distributed resources. We should also discuss how best to describe the various software and services we have used to solve them.
>>>
>>> If anyone would like to send me suggested input in advance, I will try and incorporate this into the agenda.
>>>
>>> Agenda can be found here:
>>> https://indico.cern.ch/event/779045/
>>>
>>> Alastair
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