Hi Frank
on the same lines: do we keep our crystals after frying them? Or do molecular biologists keep their agarose gels? Hummm... evolution and technologies do progress.
Yet, I would support keeping images, just as you may (but really will most likely never) want to re-process those with new software approaches etc. few years after the paper has been published ^^
Cheers, leo
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> On 13 Jul 2018, at 16:36, Frank von Delft <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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> Are the LHC researchers that analyse the detector readout on the fly without ever storing the data also guilty of malpractice? Hardcore.
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> Just a few more years, a few more Eiger detectors, a few more serial beamlines, a few more clusters and clouds, and a few more DIALS-style programmers, before MX too throws in the towel and starts trusting real-time processing and stops bothering with storing "raw" images.
> phx.
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> On 13/07/2018 11:07, John R Helliwell wrote:
>> Dear Sergei,
>> Re “all”. As a researcher my perspective is that one’s funding agency requirement for a data management plan will be the core of what you would need to follow. Your employer may have additional policies and requirements placed on you as an employee. Eg the UK funding agency EPSRC requires data be retained for 10 years. My employer, University of Manchester, has a policy which regards data loss as research malpractice.
>> Central facility data retention policies vary from facility to facility so you would need to check ie for the ones you use.
>> For publication IUCr encourages raw data underpinning a publication be archived and its doi cited. That doi can also be entered into the relevant PDB deposition.
>> Best wishes,
>> John
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>> Emeritus Professor John R Helliwell DSc
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>> On 13 Jul 2018, at 10:30, Sergei Strelkov <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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>>> Dear All,
>>>
>>>
>>> I believe this question may be of some interest.
>>> In the past, we always stored all raw data ever collected by the lab.
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>>> With the recent advances, such as
>>> (a) automated/on-the-fly processing offered by some (European) synchrotrons, and
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>>> (b) an ongoing discussion on centralized raw data archiving,
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>>> I wonder if it is time to revise the strict policy of keeping all data
>>> (before we invest in a new NAS system... )
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>>>
>>> Best wishes,
>>>
>>> Sergei
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>>> Prof. Sergei V. Strelkov Laboratory for Biocrystallography Department of Pharmaceutical Sciences, KU Leuven
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