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Re: displaying ancient Greek in Oxygen using Perseus xml files

From:

Thomas Koentges <[log in to unmask]>

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The Digital Classicist List <[log in to unmask]>

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Sun, 17 Jun 2018 09:14:49 +0200

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Dear Malika,

Here the PerseusDL repository helps. If you look for an author you can  
look up their identifier in the Perseus Catalog and when you type in  
Aristophanes in the search field, you will see that you are looking  
for the workgroup tlg0019:  
http://catalog.perseus.org/?utf8=✓&search_field=all_fields&q=aristophanes.  
This workgroup you can find by following the GitHub folder structure  
from here https://github.com/PerseusDL/canonical-greekLit click data  
(https://github.com/PerseusDL/canonical-greekLit/tree/master/data),  
then click tlg0019:  
https://github.com/PerseusDL/canonical-greekLit/tree/master/data/tlg0019

There are 11 subfolders with the comedies of Aristophanes in unicode.

That being said, there are also Python, Scala, and R scripts around  
that convert beta code to unicode (We are moving everything to unicode  
though). Speaking of moving to a newer Perseus, have you seen the  
Scaife viewer: https://scaife.perseus.org/ ?

Best wishes,

Thomas


Quoting MALIKA BASTIN <[log in to unmask]>

> Dear Thomas,
>
> Thank you so much!
> The thing is, Herodotus was just the example taken by Maurizio : I  
> need Aristophanes' comedies, and they don't seem to be in the GitHub  
> repository of OGL. On Perseids, it seems that there is only Frogs .  
> So I guess I have to find a way to upgrade the betacode version of  
> Aristophanes into unicode?
>
> Best,
> Malika
>
>
> De: "Thomas Koentges" <[log in to unmask]>
> À: "The Digital Classicist List" <[log in to unmask]>
> Envoyé: Dimanche 17 Juin 2018 08:25:27
> Objet: Re: [DIGITALCLASSICIST] displaying ancient Greek in Oxygen  
> using Perseus xml files
>
> Dear Malika,
>
> The link to the whole Herodotus seems to still point to an older
> betacode version of Herodotus, while the shorter chunk has the unicode
> version for some reason. By far the best way to retrieve a full XML
> version of the text of Perseus and the Open Greek and Latin Project is
> to go to one of their GitHub repositories.
>
> Perseus Greek: https://github.com/PerseusDL/canonical-greekLit
> OGL First1kGreek: http://opengreekandlatin.github.io/First1KGreek/
>
> The text you are looking for is here:
> https://raw.githubusercontent.com/PerseusDL/canonical-greekLit/master/data/tlg0016/tlg001/tlg0016.tlg001.perseus-grc2.xml
>
> If you do have further questions, we also starting to build a Q&A
> board regarding the openly-licensed texts in the OGL universe and
> their creation (the board is in its infancy though):
> http://discourse.oglp.io
>
> Best,
>
> Thomas
>
>
> Quoting MALIKA BASTIN <[log in to unmask]>:
>
>> Hi Maurizio,
>>
>> Just under the text from Herodotus you can access to its xml by clicking on
>>
>>
>> [
>> http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/xmlchunk?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.01.0125%3Abook%3D1%3Achapter%3D1%3Asection%3D0 | ] [ http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.01.0125%3Abook%3D1%3Achapter%3D1%3Asection%3D1 | ] , and the display of Greek is just  
>> fine
>> :
>>
>> <TEI.2><text><body><div1 type="book" n="1" org="uniform"
>> sample="complete"><div2 type="chapter" n="1" org="uniform"
>> sample="complete"><p><milestone unit="section" n="0"/><milestone
>> unit="para"/>Ἡροδότου Ἁλικαρνησσέος ἱστορίης ἀπόδεξις ἥδε, ὡς μήτε
>> τὰ γενόμενα ἐξ ἀνθρώπων τῷ χρόνῳ ἐξίτηλα γένηται, μήτε ἔργα μεγάλα
>> τε καὶ θωμαστά, τὰ μὲν Ἕλλησι τὰ δὲ βαρβάροισι ἀποδεχθέντα, ἀκλεᾶ
>> γένηται, τά τε ἄλλα καὶ δι᾽ ἣν αἰτίην ἐπολέμησαν ἀλλήλοισι.
>> </p></div2></div1></body></text></TEI.2>
>>
>> Then you can cut and paste to Oxygen, and there is no problem with
>> the display of Greek.
>>
>> But if you need as I do to work on the whole text and not only on a
>> section, you can download it under :
>>
>>
>>
>> "An [
>> http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/dltext?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.01.0125
>> | XML version ] of this text is available for download, with the
>> additional restriction that you offer Perseus any modifications you
>> make. Perseus provides credit for all accepted changes, storing new
>> additions in a versioning system."
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> My problem is, when I open the file downloaded with Oxygen the text
>> is in latin characters :
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> milestone unit="para" />*(hrodo/tou *(alikarnhsse/os i(stori/hs
>> a)po/decis h(/de, w(s mh/te ta\ geno/mena e)c a)nqrw/pwn tw=|
>> xro/nw| e)ci/thla ge/nhtai, mh/te e)/rga mega/la te kai\ qwmasta/,
>> ta\ me\n *(/ellhsi ta\ de\ barba/roisi a)podexqe/nta, a)klea=
>> ge/nhtai, ta/ te a)/lla kai\ di' h(\n ai)ti/hn e)pole/mhsan
>> a)llh/loisi.
>> <milestone unit="section" n="1" />
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks for your help,
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Best
>>
>>
>> Malika
>>
>>
>> De: "maurizio lana" <[log in to unmask]>
>> À: "The Digital Classicist List" <[log in to unmask]>
>> Envoyé: Dimanche 17 Juin 2018 01:25:41
>> Objet: Re: [DIGITALCLASSICIST] displaying ancient Greek in Oxygen
>> using Perseus xml files
>>
>> Il 15/06/18 08:25, MALIKA BASTIN ha scritto:
>>
>>
>>
>> Can anybody tell me how to display ancient Greek in Oxygen using the
>> free download xml file of a complete text from Perseus?
>>
>>
>> hi malika,
>> do you mean that what you downloaded doesn't appear as greek rather
>> it appears as garbage? or anything else?
>> i went to perseus' herodotus ( [
>> http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus:text:1999.01.0125 |
>> http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus:text:1999.01.0125 ] )
>> but at first sight i don't find a way to download a sample (say, 1
>> chapter) of a work.
>> how did you do it?
>> after what i 'll repeat your steps and try to give you an answer
>> best
>> maurizio
>>
>> --
>> the knowledge gap between rich and poor is widening
>> I. H. Witten, D. Bainbridge, D. M. Nichols,
>> How to build a digital library
>>
>>
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