Could I put in a plug for my completely free on line edition of Mary
Wroth¹s poetry which includes modernised texts and annotations as well as
images of both manuscript and print (wroth.latrobe.edu.au) and the diverse
selection of early modern women¹s writing at the early modern women¹s
research network archive:
https://c21ch.newcastle.edu.au/emwrn/digitalarchive
I am also in furious agreement about the spiralling downward of teaching
txts but there are some good things being done e.g. Broadview¹s texts are
excellent and not expensive, but also an online poetry anthology would be
a great asset, happy to take part. PS the Hester Pulter project is being
run by Wendy Wall and Leah Knight.
-Paul Salzman
On 9/4/18, 9:00 am, "Sidney-Spenser Discussion List on behalf of
SIDNEY-SPENSER automatic digest system" <[log in to unmask] on
behalf of [log in to unmask]> wrote:
>There are 4 messages totaling 3817 lines in this issue.
>
>Topics of the day:
>
> 1. Books out of print (2)
> 2. Sidney-Spenser: Deadline in one week! CFP SCSC 2018, Albuquerque, New
> Mexico, 1-4 November (2)
>
>----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2018 05:10:27 +0000
>From: Martin Mueller <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Re: Books out of print
>
>I think you are referring to hypothes.is, a project that grew out of a
>Mellon grant to develop W3C standards for annotation. Hypothes.is is
>still supported by Mellon. The EarlyPrint has annotation features that
>are based on those W3C standards. Users who have registered with
>EarlyPrint can create private and public annotations. The chief interest
>of the current site is to enable ³curation en passant² of the many simple
>defects that seriously mar about a quarter of TCP texts. But the site
>also has a free-form annotation feature that allows users to say this or
>that about a text and attach what they say to a particular location.
>
>I¹m not sure whether the site has a group function or how hard it would
>be to add that. But if it could be added you¹d have a simple version of a
>project I¹ve always dreamt of and that I call ³seminarware.² Some years
>ago the body was a hot topic. It probably still is. I imagined a seminar
>on Victorian fiction in which the members of a seminar worked on body
>rhetoric with a division of labour familiar from medical practice. You¹d
>end up with an annotated corpus. Whether these annotations would survive
>the occasion or in what form is a different question.
>
>From: Sidney-Spenser Discussion List <[log in to unmask]> on
>behalf of David Miller <[log in to unmask]>
>Reply-To: Sidney-Spenser Discussion List <[log in to unmask]>
>Date: Saturday, April 7, 2018 at 4:36 PM
>To: Sidney-Spenser Discussion List <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Re: Books out of print
>
>There is now software that enables the user to annotate--privately or
>publicly--any website. I don't know whether the studies published to date
>take into account any difference that such an affordance might make.
>
>
>On Sat, Apr 7, 2018 at 5:19 PM, Hannibal Hamlin
><[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
>This is all extremely interesting and encouraging, even if there are
>plenty of problems still to solve. I certainly agree about the relative
>value of reading online and on paper, and I'm relieved that there are
>studies to back up my experience. On the other hand, I notice that a
>number of my students, without prompting, print up online texts to bring
>to class. I don't forbid electronic devices, so the motive must be that
>they prefer something on paper. (Of course, the most serious want to have
>a book, with notes and other editorial apparatus.) Like others, I find
>the idea of a large and growing wiki-like online anthology attractive. I
>do send students to Luminarium, and use it sometimes myself, but the
>quality of texts there is extremely mixed, and the pop-up music is
>irritating. The Toronto collection is simpler, but I'm quite happy to
>forgo the visual frills. Other models are Renascence Editions and Dana
>Sutton's Philological Museum. Notes, on the other hand, are essential for
>teaching, as I think Martin said. The Philological Museum has notes, but
>the set-up is not the easiest, since text, translation, and notes are all
>on separate screens. The Milton Reading Room at Dartmouth is more user
>friendly, since notes come up in the margin (with links to sources and
>other things). Internet Shakespeare Editions is similar, with pop-up
>glosses and notes (for the texts to which they've been added), and they
>also allow consultation of different texts: Folio, quartos, modern
>spelling. Digital Renaissance Editions is in its infancy but is adopting
>the template of Internet Shakespeare for non-Shakespearean drama. For
>obvious reasons, drama is generally ahead of non-dramatic texts in
>developing online editions, though as some of you have pointed out there
>are projects underway all around us -- I gather the poems of Hester
>Pulter are also being edited for an online edition, for another example,
>and Kim Johnson put the Potter & Simpson edition of Donne's Sermons
>online at Brigham Young, in a wonderfully searchable format. I suspect,
>on the other hand (so many hands!), that online formats that allow for
>multiple texts and notes to be simultaneously visible also make printing
>more difficult (or at least printing texts and notes together).
>
>A really comprehensive online anthology might be really useful. It would
>be a massive undertaking, but presumably it could grow gradually, with
>texts being added as individuals feel the need. It would be especially
>desirable, though, if, like the Women Writers project, texts could be
>combined in various ways and printed. There was a lot of talk about print
>on demand some years back, and how it would revolutionize everything (as
>everything does), but it seems to have fizzled.
>
>Hannibal
>
>
>(Parenthetically, some of you might enjoy this site --
>https://seriesofseries.owu.edu/<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u
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>
>
>
>On Sat, Apr 7, 2018 at 2:03 PM, Harry Berger Jr
><[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
>Any string that produces the word, ³crackpotitude,² should be installed
>in the Library of Congress.
>
>
>
>On Apr 6, 2018, at 2:43 PM, Loewenstein, Joseph
><[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
>
>The problem of decent editorial supervision for commentary is a serious
>one. Wikipedia is a model solution, but we may not have the right scale
>to save us from crackpottitude.
>
>I¹m hoping that Martin Mueller will step in on the text-editorial matter.
> The work he¹s been doing on the TCP corpus, with some help from some of
>us at Wash U and Notre Dame, may enable us to draw on a relatively
>homogeneous corpus, lightly normalized and exquisitely tractable.
>Producing an anthology as a subset of the corpus is not inconceivable.
>(We¹ve been thinking of bookshelves drawn from the TCP corpus, whereas an
>anthology requires somewhat more granularity of selection.)
>
>On Apr 6, 2018, at 4:33 PM, William Oram
><[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
>
>It occurs to me that, as David implies, nobody's ideal anthology is going
>to be anyone else's. But that doesn't mean that a group of us might not
>work together to create--for instance--an online sixteenth-century poetry
>anthology out of which instructors could pick their own preferred
>readings. What Luminarium, Renascence editions, etc. offer is
>invaluable, but the glossing is often limited or nonexistent (thus
>Luminarium's Bowge of Court is glossed, but its Philip Sparrow excerpts
>are not). And undergraduates especially need the kind of help that, for
>instance, the Norton Anthologies provide. If there were online texts
>available for our courses, we would still not have dealt with with the
>problem of undergraduates turning away from anything they haven't heard
>of, but if one had a course one might put together one's own anthology.
>It might interrupt the cycle Cathy Butler writes of at one point. The
>larger problem of enrollments is one I'm not sure how to tackle. Bill
>
>On Fri, Apr 6, 2018 at 4:46 PM, Tom Bishop
><[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
>Perhaps this very list (or someone on it) could organise to recommend,
>assemble and host a ³virtual anthology² to which students worldwide in
>our classes could be directed as a single focussed resource. Luminarium
>etc serve something of this function, of course, but they also more
>voluminous than our needs. It might not even be such a big job if the
>poets themselves were ³adopted² by a plurality of scholars. It would
>certainly save the labour of each in compiling ³course readers² piecemeal.
>
>Best,
>
>Tom
>
>
>
>From: Sidney-Spenser Discussion List
><[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> on
>behalf of John Staines
><[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
>Reply-To: Sidney-Spenser Discussion List
><[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
>Date: Saturday, 7 April 2018 at 2:27 AM
>To: "[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>"
><[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
>
>Subject: Re: FW: Books out of print
>
>
>Hannibal-- For the piece I wrote for MLQ (which was a special edition on
>"Milton and the Politics of Periodization"), I skimmed through the MLA
>Job Lists since their origins in mimeographed, typewritten leaflets, and
>the pattern is clear: in the past 20 years, the Renaissance/Early Modern
>jobs increasingly conflate the period with Shakespeare and drama, which
>the collapse of the field in the past decade has hardened into the basic
>structure of the Early Modern. Even the increasingly rare Renaissance
>poetry ads will ask for 15 other requirements, including "An ability to
>teach Shakespeare and drama." There use to be ads that mentioned Spenser
>by name (and that was in the 60s, where the postings were closer in
>length and style to newspaper classified ads), but Milton is (I think)
>the only other named writer in recent years, even as the ads have grown
>to hundreds of words in length. My conclusion is that advisors would be
>derelict in their duties not to push students to have a Shakespeare
>chapter in their dissertations, no matter how intellectually unjustified
>that would be. That's not writing for the fashions of the times, which is
>most often terrible advice, but writing for a job market reality that is
>unlikely to change any time soon. Obviously that limits the kinds of
>dissertations students can write, and leads to a cycle that further
>marginalizes all other perspectives into oblivion.
>
>John D. Staines
>Associate Professor
>Major Coordinator and Advisor
>Department of English
>John Jay College of Criminal Justice
>The City University of New York
>524 West 59th Street, Room
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>________________________________
>From: Sidney-Spenser Discussion List
>[[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>] on
>behalf of Hannibal Hamlin
>[[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>]
>Sent: Friday, April 06, 2018 10:03 AM
>To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Re: FW: Books out of print
>Thanks for forwarding this, John, and thanks to all for interesting
>replies. Peter's point is no surprise, since we all know about supply and
>demand, but it aligns with my point about the trend in our profession
>toward Shakespeare and drama. Or is this just my perception? We had a job
>available this year at Ohio State, so I was able to survey what was
>probably most of the Renaissance people on the market, and most -- no
>surprise -- were in drama. Of course, the job ad stressed Shakespeare
>too, since that is THE bread and butter course for early modernists. The
>obligatory Shakespeare chapter is not a myth (or a joke). So I suppose if
>we are not teaching Vaughan or Traherne, they go out of print. (I noticed
>the same thing some years ago with pastoral, which used to have a number
>of excellent anthologies in print, now none.) It would be interesting,
>too, to know if the Penguin classics, and other such editions, depend
>entirely on the academic market, or whether there were sales to that rare
>beast, the general educated reader.
>
>Hannibal
>
>
>On Fri, Apr 6, 2018 at 9:49 AM, John Staines
><[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
>Peter Herman asked me to forward this contribution. --jds
>
>________________________________
>From: Peter Herman [[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>]
>Sent: Friday, April 06, 2018 9:47 AM
>To: John Staines
>Subject: Fwd: Books out of print
>Hi John,
>
>My email address changed, and so I'm temporarily unable to post to
>Sidney-Spenser list. I've sent a note begging to be reinstated, but in
>the interim, could I ask you to post the response below?
>
>Thanks in advance,
>
>pch
>---------- Forwarded message ----------
>From: Peter Herman <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
>Date: Fri, Apr 6, 2018 at 6:41 AM
>Subject: Re: Books out of print
>To: Sidney-Spenser Discussion List
><[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
>At SDSU, we are also encouraged to find the cheapest possible product,
>and our "bookstore" (really more of a totchke store) also offers textbook
>"rentals" and the like. At the end of every exam, you will also find
>students lining up to return or sell their books. I swear I've seen the
>same copy of a few books I've ordered show up in class after class.
>
> But publishers are responding to changes in the market: Thomas Browne
>went out of print not because of a plot against him, but because nobody
>ordered the book. The result is a circle of death: because nobody orders
>these books (or few people) do, the books go out of print, so nobody
>reads these authors, so there's no demand. And if one tries to buck the
>trend and offer a volume of a worthy author without a modern edition, it
>molders in a warehouse. Broadview took a chance on a student edition of
>Thomas Deloney's Jack of Newbury, a terrific read with all sorts of fun
>politics--imagine a cloth worker, even a wealthy one, telling Henry VIII
>"you come to me, I don't come to you"--and it sold all of 150 copies. I
>doubt Broadview will be taking a similar chance in the future.
>
>pch
>
>On Fri, Apr 6, 2018 at 6:30 AM, John Staines
><[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
>I didn't realize Penguin was pulling back on its list--I suppose someone
>could write a history of literary criticism and university curricula from
>what those publishers put in and out of print over time. And any such
>study would note the continued proliferation of Shakespeare editions, in
>every size and shape imaginable. (I touch on this in an article on Milton
>and Shakespeare in last fall's MLQ.) Oxford Authors does have a new
>edition of Browne just out in paperback, which fits the return of Browne
>in criticism. Norton continues to keep Mario Di Cesare's 40-year old
>Herbert and the 17th C. Religious Poets in print, but someone on this
>list should convince them to create a new volume. Otherwise, crafting a
>syllabi becomes a maze of PDFs--with the added wrinkle that we here in NY
>are under pressure from the governor to have our classes labeled "Zero
>Textbook Cost," which shows up as a searchable label for courses when
>students are selecting classes for the semester and as a denotation next
>to the course on their transcripts. I cannot fathom the reasoning behind
>the transcript note, but probably it's there so Cuomo can point it out
>when he speechifies about all he is doing to bring down the cost of
>college. We in the humanities are angry that a course with $50 in
>paperbacks is being lumped in with science and social science courses
>with $500 textbooks. I'm sure other states are putting on similar
>pressures.
>
>John D. Staines
>Associate Professor
>Major Coordinator and Advisor
>Department of English
>John Jay College of Criminal Justice
>The City University of New York
>524 West 59th Street, Room
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>[[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>] on
>behalf of Hannibal Hamlin
>[[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>]
>Sent: Friday, April 06, 2018 8:13 AM
>To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Books out of print
>In teaching a course on literature and religion in the seventeenth
>century, I've been struck by how many major authors are no longer in
>print, mainly, I think, because of the disappearance of good Penguin
>editions. Thomas Browne is gone, as are Henry Vaughan and Thomas
>Traherne. And there are no viable alternatives. Has anyone else noticed
>this, and are there other authors who have dropped out of circulation?
>
>I guess I have a couple of ideas about this development. The first is
>that the interest in poetry in general has waned over the last several
>decades, perhaps due in part to the focus of much popular theory on the
>novel. (I note with surprise how little the critical bibliography on
>seventeenth-century poets, except Milton, has developed since the 80s.)
>The other thought is that the dwindling job market has resulted in an
>unhealthy focus on Shakespeare and drama, since as the Humanities sink
>below the waves, Shakespeare is the last Renaissance writer to go under.
>
>Thoughts?
>
>Hannibal
>
>
>
>--
>Hannibal Hamlin
>Professor of English
>The Ohio State University
>Author of The Bible in Shakespeare, now available through all good
>bookshops, or direct from Oxford University Press at
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>--
>Hannibal Hamlin
>Professor of English
>The Ohio State University
>Author of The Bible in Shakespeare, now available through all good
>bookshops, or direct from Oxford University Press at
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>--
>William Oram
>Helen Means Professor of English
>Smith College
>Northampton, MA 01063
>
>
>
>
>
>--
>Hannibal Hamlin
>Professor of English
>The Ohio State University
>Author of The Bible in Shakespeare, now available through all good
>bookshops, or direct from Oxford University Press at
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>Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2018 06:27:32 +0100
>From: Elisabeth Chaghafi <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Re: Books out of print
>
>But the trouble with those annotations is that they're still slightly
>different from hand-written notes, so in practice, people might only use
>them if they felt they had something significant or insightful to add to
>the text (i.e. something that's really worth writing down), whereas if
>they
>were reading with pencil and paper, they'd be happily scribbling away as
>soon as an idle thought entered their brains. That advance filtering
>process isn't necessarily a bad thing, especially if the notes are
>supposed
>to be visible to other readers, but it's likely to have an effect on how
>people read, even if it's a subtle one.
>Personally I think working with EEBO printouts on paper give you the best
>of all worlds, because it's "proper" paper-based reading, you can
>annotate,
>and you also get a sense of the original book that you get neither with a
>digital text nor with a modern edition. And as an added bonus you get
>desensitized (or would that be sensitized?) to period spelling very
>quickly, so it no longer seems odd.
>
>On Sat, Apr 7, 2018 at 10:35 PM, David Miller <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>> There is now software that enables the user to annotate--privately or
>> publicly--any website. I don't know whether the studies published to
>>date
>> take into account any difference that such an affordance might make.
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Apr 7, 2018 at 5:19 PM, Hannibal Hamlin
>><[log in to unmask]
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> This is all extremely interesting and encouraging, even if there are
>>> plenty of problems still to solve. I certainly agree about the relative
>>> value of reading online and on paper, and I'm relieved that there are
>>> studies to back up my experience. On the other hand, I notice that a
>>>number
>>> of my students, without prompting, print up online texts to bring to
>>>class.
>>> I don't forbid electronic devices, so the motive must be that they
>>>prefer
>>> something on paper. (Of course, the most serious want to have a book,
>>>with
>>> notes and other editorial apparatus.) Like others, I find the idea of a
>>> large and growing wiki-like online anthology attractive. I do send
>>>students
>>> to Luminarium, and use it sometimes myself, but the quality of texts
>>>there
>>> is extremely mixed, and the pop-up music is irritating. The Toronto
>>> collection is simpler, but I'm quite happy to forgo the visual frills.
>>> Other models are Renascence Editions and Dana Sutton's Philological
>>>Museum.
>>> Notes, on the other hand, are essential for teaching, as I think Martin
>>> said. The Philological Museum has notes, but the set-up is not the
>>>easiest,
>>> since text, translation, and notes are all on separate screens. The
>>>Milton
>>> Reading Room at Dartmouth is more user friendly, since notes come up
>>>in the
>>> margin (with links to sources and other things). Internet Shakespeare
>>> Editions is similar, with pop-up glosses and notes (for the texts to
>>>which
>>> they've been added), and they also allow consultation of different
>>>texts:
>>> Folio, quartos, modern spelling. Digital Renaissance Editions is in its
>>> infancy but is adopting the template of Internet Shakespeare for
>>> non-Shakespearean drama. For obvious reasons, drama is generally ahead
>>>of
>>> non-dramatic texts in developing online editions, though as some of you
>>> have pointed out there are projects underway all around us -- I gather
>>>the
>>> poems of Hester Pulter are also being edited for an online edition, for
>>> another example, and Kim Johnson put the Potter & Simpson edition of
>>> Donne's Sermons online at Brigham Young, in a wonderfully searchable
>>> format. I suspect, on the other hand (so many hands!), that online
>>>formats
>>> that allow for multiple texts and notes to be simultaneously visible
>>>also
>>> make printing more difficult (or at least printing texts and notes
>>> together).
>>>
>>> A really comprehensive online anthology might be really useful. It
>>>would
>>> be a massive undertaking, but presumably it could grow gradually, with
>>> texts being added as individuals feel the need. It would be especially
>>> desirable, though, if, like the Women Writers project, texts could be
>>> combined in various ways and printed. There was a lot of talk about
>>>print
>>> on demand some years back, and how it would revolutionize everything
>>>(as
>>> everything does), but it seems to have fizzled.
>>>
>>> Hannibal
>>>
>>>
>>> (Parenthetically, some of you might enjoy this site --
>>> https://seriesofseries.owu.edu/ -- which I stumbled upon looking up
>>> Oxford Scholarly Editions.)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Apr 7, 2018 at 2:03 PM, Harry Berger Jr <[log in to unmask]>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Any string that produces the word, ³crackpotitude,² should be
>>>>installed
>>>> in the Library of Congress.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Apr 6, 2018, at 2:43 PM, Loewenstein, Joseph <[log in to unmask]
>>>> <[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> The problem of decent editorial supervision for commentary is a
>>>>serious
>>>> one. Wikipedia is a model solution, but we may not have the right
>>>>scale to
>>>> save us from crackpottitude.
>>>>
>>>> I¹m hoping that Martin Mueller will step in on the text-editorial
>>>> matter. The work he¹s been doing on the TCP corpus, with some help
>>>>from
>>>> some of us at Wash U and Notre Dame, may enable us to draw on a
>>>>relatively
>>>> homogeneous corpus, lightly normalized and exquisitely tractable.
>>>> Producing an anthology as a subset of the corpus is not inconceivable.
>>>> (We¹ve been thinking of bookshelves drawn from the TCP corpus,
>>>>whereas an
>>>> anthology requires somewhat more granularity of selection.)
>>>>
>>>> On Apr 6, 2018, at 4:33 PM, William Oram <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> It occurs to me that, as David implies, nobody's ideal anthology is
>>>> going to be anyone else's. But that doesn't mean that a group of us
>>>>might
>>>> not work together to create--for instance--an online sixteenth-century
>>>> poetry anthology out of which instructors could pick their own
>>>>preferred
>>>> readings. What Luminarium, Renascence editions, etc. offer is
>>>>invaluable,
>>>> but the glossing is often limited or nonexistent (thus Luminarium's
>>>>*Bowge
>>>> of Court* is glossed, but its *Philip Sparrow* excerpts are not).
>>>>And undergraduates
>>>> especially need the kind of help that, for instance, the Norton
>>>>Anthologies
>>>> provide. If there were online texts available for our courses, we
>>>>would
>>>> still not have dealt with with the problem of undergraduates turning
>>>>away
>>>> from anything they haven't heard of, but if one had a course one
>>>>might put
>>>> together one's own anthology. It might interrupt the cycle Cathy
>>>>Butler
>>>> writes of at one point. The larger problem of enrollments is one I'm
>>>>not
>>>> sure how to tackle. Bill
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Apr 6, 2018 at 4:46 PM, Tom Bishop <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Perhaps this very list (or someone on it) could organise to
>>>>>recommend,
>>>>> assemble and host a ³virtual anthology² to which students worldwide
>>>>>in our
>>>>> classes could be directed as a single focussed resource. Luminarium
>>>>>etc
>>>>> serve something of this function, of course, but they also more
>>>>>voluminous
>>>>> than our needs. It might not even be such a big job if the poets
>>>>>themselves
>>>>> were ³adopted² by a plurality of scholars. It would certainly save
>>>>>the
>>>>> labour of each in compiling ³course readers² piecemeal.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Best,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Tom
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *From: *Sidney-Spenser Discussion List
>>>>><[log in to unmask]>
>>>>> on behalf of John Staines <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>> *Reply-To: *Sidney-Spenser Discussion List <
>>>>> [log in to unmask]>
>>>>> *Date: *Saturday, 7 April 2018 at 2:27 AM
>>>>> *To: *"[log in to unmask]" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>
>>>>> *Subject: *Re: FW: Books out of print
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hannibal-- For the piece I wrote for MLQ (which was a special edition
>>>>> on "Milton and the Politics of Periodization"), I skimmed through
>>>>>the MLA
>>>>> Job Lists since their origins in mimeographed, typewritten leaflets,
>>>>>and
>>>>> the pattern is clear: in the past 20 years, the Renaissance/Early
>>>>>Modern
>>>>> jobs increasingly conflate the period with Shakespeare and drama,
>>>>>which the
>>>>> collapse of the field in the past decade has hardened into the basic
>>>>> structure of the Early Modern. Even the increasingly rare Renaissance
>>>>> poetry ads will ask for 15 other requirements, including "An ability
>>>>>to
>>>>> teach Shakespeare and drama." There use to be ads that mentioned
>>>>>Spenser by
>>>>> name (and that was in the 60s, where the postings were closer in
>>>>>length and
>>>>> style to newspaper classified ads), but Milton is (I think) the only
>>>>>other
>>>>> named writer in recent years, even as the ads have grown to hundreds
>>>>>of
>>>>> words in length. My conclusion is that advisors would be derelict
>>>>>in their
>>>>> duties not to push students to have a Shakespeare chapter in their
>>>>> dissertations, no matter how intellectually unjustified that would
>>>>>be.
>>>>> That's not writing for the fashions of the times, which is most often
>>>>> terrible advice, but writing for a job market reality that is
>>>>>unlikely to
>>>>> change any time soon. Obviously that limits the kinds of
>>>>>dissertations
>>>>> students can write, and leads to a cycle that further marginalizes
>>>>>all
>>>>> other perspectives into oblivion.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> John D. Staines
>>>>> Associate Professor
>>>>> Major Coordinator and Advisor
>>>>> Department of English
>>>>> John Jay College of Criminal Justice
>>>>> The City University of New York
>>>>> 524 West 59th Street, Room 7
>>>>>
>>>>><https://maps.google.com/?q=524+West+59th+Street,+Room+7&entry=gmail&s
>>>>>ource=g>
>>>>> .63.06
>>>>> New York, NY 10019
>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* Sidney-Spenser Discussion List
>>>>>[[log in to unmask]]
>>>>> on behalf of Hannibal Hamlin [[log in to unmask]]
>>>>> *Sent:* Friday, April 06, 2018 10:03 AM
>>>>> *To:* [log in to unmask]
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: FW: Books out of print
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for forwarding this, John, and thanks to all for interesting
>>>>> replies. Peter's point is no surprise, since we all know about
>>>>>supply and
>>>>> demand, but it aligns with my point about the trend in our profession
>>>>> toward Shakespeare and drama. Or is this just my perception? We had
>>>>>a job
>>>>> available this year at Ohio State, so I was able to survey what was
>>>>> probably most of the Renaissance people on the market, and most -- no
>>>>> surprise -- were in drama. Of course, the job ad stressed
>>>>>Shakespeare too,
>>>>> since that is THE bread and butter course for early modernists. The
>>>>> obligatory Shakespeare chapter is not a myth (or a joke). So I
>>>>>suppose if
>>>>> we are not teaching Vaughan or Traherne, they go out of print. (I
>>>>>noticed
>>>>> the same thing some years ago with pastoral, which used to have a
>>>>>number of
>>>>> excellent anthologies in print, now none.) It would be interesting,
>>>>>too, to
>>>>> know if the Penguin classics, and other such editions, depend
>>>>>entirely on
>>>>> the academic market, or whether there were sales to that rare beast,
>>>>>the
>>>>> general educated reader.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hannibal
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Apr 6, 2018 at 9:49 AM, John Staines <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Peter Herman asked me to forward this contribution. --jds
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* Peter Herman [[log in to unmask]]
>>>>> *Sent:* Friday, April 06, 2018 9:47 AM
>>>>> *To:* John Staines
>>>>> *Subject:* Fwd: Books out of print
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi John,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> My email address changed, and so I'm temporarily unable to post to
>>>>> Sidney-Spenser list. I've sent a note begging to be reinstated, but
>>>>>in the
>>>>> interim, could I ask you to post the response below?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks in advance,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> pch
>>>>>
>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>>> From: *Peter Herman* <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>> Date: Fri, Apr 6, 2018 at 6:41 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: Books out of print
>>>>> To: Sidney-Spenser Discussion List <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>
>>>>> At SDSU, we are also encouraged to find the cheapest possible
>>>>>product,
>>>>> and our "bookstore" (really more of a totchke store) also offers
>>>>>textbook
>>>>> "rentals" and the like. At the end of every exam, you will also find
>>>>> students lining up to return or sell their books. I swear I've seen
>>>>>the
>>>>> same copy of a few books I've ordered show up in class after class.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> But publishers are responding to changes in the market: Thomas
>>>>>Browne
>>>>> went out of print not because of a plot against him, but because
>>>>>nobody
>>>>> ordered the book. The result is a circle of death: because nobody
>>>>>orders
>>>>> these books (or few people) do, the books go out of print, so nobody
>>>>>reads
>>>>> these authors, so there's no demand. And if one tries to buck the
>>>>>trend and
>>>>> offer a volume of a worthy author without a modern edition, it
>>>>>molders in a
>>>>> warehouse. Broadview took a chance on a student edition of Thomas
>>>>>Deloney's *Jack
>>>>> of Newbury*, a terrific read with all sorts of fun politics--imagine
>>>>>a
>>>>> cloth worker, even a wealthy one, telling Henry VIII "you come to
>>>>>me, I
>>>>> don't come to you"--and it sold all of 150 copies. I doubt Broadview
>>>>>will
>>>>> be taking a similar chance in the future.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> pch
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Apr 6, 2018 at 6:30 AM, John Staines <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I didn't realize Penguin was pulling back on its list--I suppose
>>>>> someone could write a history of literary criticism and university
>>>>> curricula from what those publishers put in and out of print over
>>>>>time. And
>>>>> any such study would note the continued proliferation of Shakespeare
>>>>> editions, in every size and shape imaginable. (I touch on this in an
>>>>> article on Milton and Shakespeare in last fall's *MLQ*.) Oxford
>>>>> Authors does have a new edition of Browne just out in paperback,
>>>>>which fits
>>>>> the return of Browne in criticism. Norton continues to keep Mario Di
>>>>> Cesare's 40-year old *Herbert and the 17th C. Religious Poets* in
>>>>> print, but someone on this list should convince them to create a new
>>>>> volume. Otherwise, crafting a syllabi becomes a maze of PDFs--with
>>>>>the
>>>>> added wrinkle that we here in NY are under pressure from the
>>>>>governor to
>>>>> have our classes labeled "Zero Textbook Cost," which shows up as a
>>>>> searchable label for courses when students are selecting classes for
>>>>>the
>>>>> semester and as a denotation next to the course on their
>>>>>transcripts. I
>>>>> cannot fathom the reasoning behind the transcript note, but probably
>>>>>it's
>>>>> there so Cuomo can point it out when he speechifies about all he is
>>>>>doing
>>>>> to bring down the cost of college. We in the humanities are angry
>>>>>that a
>>>>> course with $50 in paperbacks is being lumped in with science and
>>>>>social
>>>>> science courses with $500 textbooks. I'm sure other states are
>>>>>putting on
>>>>> similar pressures.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> John D. Staines
>>>>> Associate Professor
>>>>> Major Coordinator and Advisor
>>>>> Department of English
>>>>> John Jay College of Criminal Justice
>>>>> The City University of New York
>>>>> 524 West 59th Street, Room
>>>>>
>>>>><https://maps.google.com/?q=524+West+59th+Street,+Room++7&entry=gmail&
>>>>>source=g>
>>>>> 7
>>>>>
>>>>><https://maps.google.com/?q=524+West+59th+Street,+Room%0D%0A+7&entry=g
>>>>>mail&source=g>
>>>>> .63.06
>>>>> New York, NY 10019
>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* Sidney-Spenser Discussion List
>>>>>[[log in to unmask]]
>>>>> on behalf of Hannibal Hamlin [[log in to unmask]]
>>>>> *Sent:* Friday, April 06, 2018 8:13 AM
>>>>> *To:* [log in to unmask]
>>>>> *Subject:* Books out of print
>>>>>
>>>>> In teaching a course on literature and religion in the seventeenth
>>>>> century, I've been struck by how many major authors are no longer in
>>>>>print,
>>>>> mainly, I think, because of the disappearance of good Penguin
>>>>>editions.
>>>>> Thomas Browne is gone, as are Henry Vaughan and Thomas Traherne. And
>>>>>there
>>>>> are no viable alternatives. Has anyone else noticed this, and are
>>>>>there
>>>>> other authors who have dropped out of circulation?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I guess I have a couple of ideas about this development. The first is
>>>>> that the interest in poetry in general has waned over the last
>>>>>several
>>>>> decades, perhaps due in part to the focus of much popular theory on
>>>>>the
>>>>> novel. (I note with surprise how little the critical bibliography on
>>>>> seventeenth-century poets, except Milton, has developed since the
>>>>>80s.) The
>>>>> other thought is that the dwindling job market has resulted in an
>>>>>unhealthy
>>>>> focus on Shakespeare and drama, since as the Humanities sink below
>>>>>the
>>>>> waves, Shakespeare is the last Renaissance writer to go under.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hannibal
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> Hannibal Hamlin
>>>>> Professor of English
>>>>> The Ohio State University
>>>>>
>>>>> Author of *The Bible in Shakespeare*, now available through all good
>>>>> bookshops, or direct from Oxford University Press at
>>>>> http://ukcatalogue.oup.com/product/9780199677610.do
>>>>>
>>>>> 164 Annie
>>>>>
>>>>><https://maps.google.com/?q=164+Annie++John+Glenn+Ave&entry=gmail&sour
>>>>>ce=g>&
>>>>> John Glenn Ave
>>>>>
>>>>><https://maps.google.com/?q=164+Annie++John+Glenn+Ave&entry=gmail&sour
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>>>>> [log in to unmask]
>>>>> [log in to unmask]
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> Hannibal Hamlin
>>>>> Professor of English
>>>>> The Ohio State University
>>>>>
>>>>> Author of *The Bible in Shakespeare*, now available through all good
>>>>> bookshops, or direct from Oxford University Press at
>>>>> http://ukcatalogue.oup.com/product/9780199677610.do
>>>>>
>>>>> 164 Annie
>>>>>
>>>>><https://maps.google.com/?q=164+Annie++John+Glenn+Ave&entry=gmail&sour
>>>>>ce=g>&
>>>>> John Glenn Ave., 421 Denney Hall
>>>>> Columbus, OH 43210-1340
>>>>> [log in to unmask]
>>>>> [log in to unmask]
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> William Oram
>>>> Helen Means Professor of English
>>>> Smith College
>>>> Northampton, MA 01063
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Hannibal Hamlin
>>> Professor of English
>>> The Ohio State University
>>> Author of *The Bible in Shakespeare*, now available through all good
>>> bookshops, or direct from Oxford University Press at
>>> http://ukcatalogue.oup.com/product/9780199677610.do
>>> 164 Annie
>>>
>>><https://maps.google.com/?q=164+Annie++John+Glenn+Ave&entry=gmail&source
>>>=g>&
>>> John Glenn Ave., 421 Denney Hall
>>> Columbus, OH 43210-1340
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>>> [log in to unmask]
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> David Lee Miller
>> University of South Carolina
>> Columbia, SC 29208
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>>
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>Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2018 12:55:41 -0400
>From: Scott Lucas <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Sidney-Spenser: Deadline in one week! CFP SCSC 2018,
>Albuquerque, New Mexico, 1-4 November
>
>Dear all,
>
>This is just a reminder that there is only a week left until the deadline
>of April 15 for paper and panel proposals for the 2018 Sixteenth Century
>Society Conference. The 2018 meeting will be held 1-4 November in
>beautiful and historic Albuquerque, New Mexico, Founded as a town in 1706
>by the Spanish, Albuquerque is imbued with the legacy of its American
>Indian and Spanish-colonial beginnings. Located in the high desert and
>surrounded by mountains, Albuquerque offers museums, parks, historic adobe
>buildings, and some of the best Mexican food in the United States. Also,
>last year the average temperature was 70 degrees Fahrenheit (21 degrees
>Celsius) for the first four days of November, which is certainly pleasant!
>
>I am the English-literature program coordinator for the conference, and I
>welcome all paper and panel proposals on British literature and/or
>culture,
>c. 1470-1680. We already have some very good paper and panel submissions
>on Spenser, Sidney, and the Sidney Circle, but I strongly encourage more!
>If you submit a paper proposal, I'll be happy to match it with other,
>similar papers and form panels from all the accepted independent
>submissions.
>
>*The call for papers is below. * I hope to see many of you in New Mexico
>for SCSC in November 2018! If you have any questions, just write me at
>[log in to unmask] or at the email address below.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Scott
>
>Scott Lucas
>English-literature program coordinator
>SCSC 2018
>
>
>
>
>Scott C. Lucas
>Professor and Head of the Department
>Department of English, Fine Arts, and Communications
>The Citadel, the Military College of South Carolina
>Charleston, SC 29409
>
>(843) 953-5133
>[log in to unmask]
>
>
>
>
>*Call for Proposals*
>
>*Sixteenth Century Society and Conference*
>
>*Submission Deadline: 15 April 2018*
>
>The Sixteenth Century Society and Conference (SCSC) is accepting proposals
>for individual presentation submissions and complete panels for its annual
>conference, 1-4 November 2018, in Albuquerque, New Mexico. Abstracts (250
>words or less) either for individual presentations or complete panels must
>be submitted online at sixteenthcentury.org/conference, using the links on
>that page¹s left menu. *Please request AV equipment when submitting
>proposals*. These requests are scheduled in advance and due to costs, late
>requests cannot be accommodated. Within four weeks after the 21 April
>deadline, the Program Committee will notify all who submitted proposals of
>its decision.
>
>Proposals that address any topic within ³the long sixteenth century² are
>invited. *A paper that has been published previously or presented at
>another scholarly conference may not be delivered at the annual
>conference. **Please note that proposing a session or a paper indicates a
>commitment to attend. *The selection process is competitive, and the
>conference committee will not be able to accept every submission.
>
>*Attention Graduate Students*
>
>The SCSC is pleased to invite applications for travel grants to its 2018
>annual conference in Albuquerque, NM. The maximum award will be
>$500. Applications will be considered after the applicant has submitted a
>paper or panel proposal. Whether or not an award is given, all submissions
>are a commitment to attend the conference. Applications must include the
>following:
>
>1. Title and brief description (250 words) of the paper the student will
>be
>presenting at the conference
>
>2. CV including the names and contact information of two references
>
>3. Brief statement (100 words) of financial need
>
>Please submit the application to Bruce Janacek: <[log in to unmask]>.
>
>The SCSC especially encourage submissions from graduate student speakers
>and independent scholars. The invitation to graduate students has been
>confusing and needs to be clarified:
>
>
>
>The SCSC¹s commitment to welcoming graduate students into the academy is
>both constitutionally based and has the strong support of the Executive
>Committee and Council. *Whatever confusion arose recently, there should be
>no doubt that graduate students enrich our community immensely. With this
>in mind, the SCSC encourages graduate students especially to submit single
>submissions.* It is challenging for advanced members of the academy to
>organize panels, even more so for graduate students, particularly a panel
>that includes at least one member with a terminal degree. The hope is to
>diminish any anxiety graduate students may feel trying to organize their
>own panels. Graduate students proposing a complete panel should keep in
>mind that at least one member of the panel should hold the PhD. Whether
>proposing single presentations or complete panels, graduate students
>should
>include their dissertation title and proposed date of completion.
>
>
>
>
>
>In addition to standard panels, the organizing committee will accept
>proposals for four types of *alternate panels*:
>
>· Workshop Option A: Discussion of pre-circulated papers in a workshop
>format (limit of 4 participants).
>
>· Workshop Option B: Analysis of thorny translation/paleography
>questions; pre-circulation not required (limit of 3 participants).
>
>· Workshop Option C: Examination of a big issue or question with brief
>comments from presenters and lively audience participation (similar to
>roundtables with more audience participation; limit of 4 participants).
>
>· Roundtables sponsored by affiliated societies.
>
>Poster session proposals are submitted as papers to the *digital history
>track*. The poster session panel code is P44A1520.
>
>*Questions about formats should be directed to
>[log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]>.*
>
>The SCSC, a not-for-profit scholarly organization, receives no
>governmental
>or institutional funding. Aside from the lower registration fee and the
>Travel Award competition, no other subventions are available for graduate
>students. The graduate student application procedure will be posted at
>http://www.sixteenthcentury.org/resources/travel/ after the Program
>Committee has completed its work.
>
>The registration fee is used to pay for conference facilities and general
>events. By paying the fee, delegates become members in the SCSC and
>receive
>the Sixteenth Century Journal. *Conference registration fees are
>non-refundable*. Advance registration discounts are available online until
>shortly before a meeting begins.
>
>
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>Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2018 20:24:39 +0000
>From: Kathryn Walls <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Re: Sidney-Spenser: Deadline in one week! CFP SCSC 2018,
>Albuquerque, New Mexico, 1-4 November
>
>Great news Farzaneh. I have asked our School Manager to look into the w
>Question of that air ticket, and I expect that she will get back to you
>about it, K
>Best regards, Kathryn
>
>Sent from my iPad
>
>On 9/04/2018, at 4:56 AM, Scott Lucas
><[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
>
>Dear all,
>
>This is just a reminder that there is only a week left until the deadline
>of April 15 for paper and panel proposals for the 2018 Sixteenth Century
>Society Conference. The 2018 meeting will be held 1-4 November in
>beautiful and historic Albuquerque, New Mexico, Founded as a town in 1706
>by the Spanish, Albuquerque is imbued with the legacy of its American
>Indian and Spanish-colonial beginnings. Located in the high desert and
>surrounded by mountains, Albuquerque offers museums, parks, historic
>adobe buildings, and some of the best Mexican food in the United States.
>Also, last year the average temperature was 70 degrees Fahrenheit (21
>degrees Celsius) for the first four days of November, which is certainly
>pleasant!
>
>I am the English-literature program coordinator for the conference, and I
>welcome all paper and panel proposals on British literature and/or
>culture, c. 1470-1680. We already have some very good paper and panel
>submissions on Spenser, Sidney, and the Sidney Circle, but I strongly
>encourage more! If you submit a paper proposal, I'll be happy to match
>it with other, similar papers and form panels from all the accepted
>independent submissions.
>
>The call for papers is below. I hope to see many of you in New Mexico
>for SCSC in November 2018! If you have any questions, just write me at
>[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> or at the email
>address below.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Scott
>
>Scott Lucas
>English-literature program coordinator
>SCSC 2018
>
>
>
>
>Scott C. Lucas
>Professor and Head of the Department
>Department of English, Fine Arts, and Communications
>The Citadel, the Military College of South Carolina
>Charleston, SC 29409
>
>(843) 953-5133
>[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>
>
>
>
>
>
>Call for Proposals
>
>Sixteenth Century Society and Conference
>
>Submission Deadline: 15 April 2018
>
>The Sixteenth Century Society and Conference (SCSC) is accepting
>proposals for individual presentation submissions and complete panels for
>its annual conference, 1-4 November 2018, in Albuquerque, New Mexico.
>Abstracts (250 words or less) either for individual presentations or
>complete panels must be submitted online at
>sixteenthcentury.org/conference<http://sixteenthcentury.org/conference>,
>using the links on that page¹s left menu. Please request AV equipment
>when submitting proposals. These requests are scheduled in advance and
>due to costs, late requests cannot be accommodated. Within four weeks
>after the 21 April deadline, the Program Committee will notify all who
>submitted proposals of its decision.
>
>Proposals that address any topic within ³the long sixteenth century² are
>invited. A paper that has been published previously or presented at
>another scholarly conference may not be delivered at the annual
>conference. Please note that proposing a session or a paper indicates a
>commitment to attend. The selection process is competitive, and the
>conference committee will not be able to accept every submission.
>
>Attention Graduate Students
>
>The SCSC is pleased to invite applications for travel grants to its 2018
>annual conference in Albuquerque, NM. The maximum award will be $500.
>Applications will be considered after the applicant has submitted a paper
>or panel proposal. Whether or not an award is given, all submissions are
>a commitment to attend the conference. Applications must include the
>following:
>
>1. Title and brief description (250 words) of the paper the student will
>be presenting at the conference
>
>2. CV including the names and contact information of two references
>
>3. Brief statement (100 words) of financial need
>
>Please submit the application to Bruce Janacek:
><[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>>.
>
>The SCSC especially encourage submissions from graduate student speakers
>and independent scholars. The invitation to graduate students has been
>confusing and needs to be clarified:
>
>
>
>The SCSC¹s commitment to welcoming graduate students into the academy is
>both constitutionally based and has the strong support of the Executive
>Committee and Council. Whatever confusion arose recently, there should be
>no doubt that graduate students enrich our community immensely. With this
>in mind, the SCSC encourages graduate students especially to submit
>single submissions. It is challenging for advanced members of the
>academy to organize panels, even more so for graduate students,
>particularly a panel that includes at least one member with a terminal
>degree. The hope is to diminish any anxiety graduate students may feel
>trying to organize their own panels. Graduate students proposing a
>complete panel should keep in mind that at least one member of the panel
>should hold the PhD. Whether proposing single presentations or complete
>panels, graduate students should include their dissertation title and
>proposed date of completion.
>
>
>
>
>
>In addition to standard panels, the organizing committee will accept
>proposals for four types of alternate panels:
>
>· Workshop Option A: Discussion of pre-circulated papers in a workshop
>format (limit of 4 participants).
>
>· Workshop Option B: Analysis of thorny translation/paleography
>questions; pre-circulation not required (limit of 3 participants).
>
>· Workshop Option C: Examination of a big issue or question with brief
>comments from presenters and lively audience participation (similar to
>roundtables with more audience participation; limit of 4 participants).
>
>· Roundtables sponsored by affiliated societies.
>
>Poster session proposals are submitted as papers to the digital history
>track. The poster session panel code is P44A1520.
>
>Questions about formats should be directed to
>[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>.
>
>The SCSC, a not-for-profit scholarly organization, receives no
>governmental or institutional funding. Aside from the lower registration
>fee and the Travel Award competition, no other subventions are available
>for graduate students. The graduate student application procedure will be
>posted at http://www.sixteenthcentury.org/resources/travel/ after the
>Program Committee has completed its work.
>
>The registration fee is used to pay for conference facilities and general
>events. By paying the fee, delegates become members in the SCSC and
>receive the Sixteenth Century Journal. Conference registration fees are
>non-refundable. Advance registration discounts are available online until
>shortly before a meeting begins.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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