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Re: Blackboard integration

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Stephen P Vickers <[log in to unmask]>

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WebPA <[log in to unmask]>

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Thu, 16 Nov 2017 09:56:06 +0000

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Yes, settings are not lost when the building block is deleted or updated.

Stephen

On 16/11/17 09:24, Tom Salyers wrote:
> Stephen--
>
> Regarding updating the LTI building block...will it retain its existing
> tool settings? Or if not, is there a way to export them all?
>
> --
> Tom Salyers
> VLE Developer
>
> The University of Sheffield
> Corporate Information & Computing Services (CiCS)
> 10-12 Brunswick Street
> Sheffield, S10 2FN
> Tel:  0114 222 1141
> [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
>
> On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 3:42 PM, Smith, John <[log in to unmask]
> <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
>
> Hi Tom
>
>
> ​Ha ha, sorry I didn't notice that. It does seem strange though that
> you are experiencing LTI issues with 2 system at a similar time...
>
>
> Regards,
>
> John Smith
> Learning Technologist | School of Health & Life Sciences
>
> T: +44 (0)141 331 3989 <tel:+44%20141%20331%203989> | E:
> [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
> Glasgow Caledonian University, Cowcaddens Road, Glasgow, G4 0BA,
> Scotland, United Kingdom
>
> **** Please note all Learning and Teaching enquiries MUST be sent to
> our shared Blended Learning inbox at [log in to unmask]
> <mailto:[log in to unmask]> and one of the School Learning
> Technologists will respond. ****
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* WebPA <[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
> on behalf of Tom Salyers <[log in to unmask]
> <mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
> *Sent:* 14 November 2017 15:38
>
> *To:* [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
> *Subject:* Re: Blackboard integration
> Hi, John.
>
> Heh. Yeah, that's actually me there. I'm having the same problem in
> two places, it seems.
>
> --
> Tom Salyers
> VLE Developer
>
> The University of Sheffield
> Corporate Information & Computing Services (CiCS)
> 10-12 Brunswick Street
> <https://maps.google.com/?q=10-12+Brunswick+Street%0D+Sheffield,+S10&entry=gmail&source=g>
> Sheffield, S10
> <https://maps.google.com/?q=10-12+Brunswick+Street%0D+Sheffield,+S10&entry=gmail&source=g>
> 2FN
> Tel:  0114 222 1141
> [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
>
> On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 3:35 PM, Smith, John <[log in to unmask]
> <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
>
> Here's a link
> http://www.xerte.org.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&view=topic&catid=10&id=1403&Itemid=759&lang=en#4796
> <http://www.xerte.org.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&view=topic&catid=10&id=1403&Itemid=759&lang=en#4796>
> ​
>
>
> Regards,
>
> John Smith
> Learning Technologist | School of Health & Life Sciences
>
> T: +44 (0)141 331 3989 <tel:+44%20141%20331%203989> | E:
> [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
> Glasgow Caledonian University, Cowcaddens Road, Glasgow, G4 0BA,
> Scotland, United Kingdom
>
> **** Please note all Learning and Teaching enquiries MUST be
> sent to our shared Blended Learning inbox at [log in to unmask]
> <mailto:[log in to unmask]> and one of the School Learning
> Technologists will respond. ****
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* WebPA <[log in to unmask]
> <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> on behalf of Tom Salyers
> <[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
> *Sent:* 14 November 2017 15:32
> *To:* [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
> *Subject:* Re: Blackboard integration
> I'll have to check with my coworkers, but I think no one is
> entirely sure when it stopped working properly, unfortunately--I
> get the impression WebPA wasn't heavily used (if it was used at
> all) over the summer. I'll try updating the building block and
> I'll let you know what happens.
>
> --
> Tom Salyers
> VLE Developer
>
> The University of Sheffield
> Corporate Information & Computing Services (CiCS)
> 10-12 Brunswick Street
> <https://maps.google.com/?q=10-12+Brunswick+Street%0D+Sheffield,+S10&entry=gmail&source=g>
> Sheffield, S10
> <https://maps.google.com/?q=10-12+Brunswick+Street%0D+Sheffield,+S10&entry=gmail&source=g>
> 2FN
> Tel:  0114 222 1141
> [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
>
> On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 3:23 PM, Stephen P Vickers
> <[log in to unmask]
> <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
>
> I see no reason why it should not be working with that
> version of Learn 9.  Have you seen it working since
> upgrading to Q2 2017?  However, the version of the building
> block is now 2.5 years old, I would recommend that you try
> updating this to see if that has any effect.
>
> Stephen
>
> On 14/11/17 15:14, Tom Salyers wrote:
>
> Installation details in Blackboard says we're running
> 3200.0.2-rel.37+f07d42b, and the BasicLTI building block
> version is 3.1.0.
>
> --
> Tom Salyers
> VLE Developer
>
> The University of Sheffield
> Corporate Information & Computing Services (CiCS)
> 10-12 Brunswick Street
> <https://maps.google.com/?q=10-12+Brunswick+Street+%0D+Sheffield,+S10&entry=gmail&source=g>
> Sheffield, S10
> <https://maps.google.com/?q=10-12+Brunswick+Street%0D+Sheffield,+S10+%3Chttps://maps.google.com/?q%3D10-12%2BBrunswick%2BStreet%250D%2BSheffield,%2BS10%26entry%3Dgmail%26source%3Dg%3E&entry=gmail&source=g>
> 2FN
> Tel:  0114 222 1141
> [log in to unmask]
> <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
> <mailto:[log in to unmask]
> <mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
>
> On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 3:10 PM, Stephen P Vickers
> <[log in to unmask]
> <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
> <mailto:[log in to unmask]
> <mailto:[log in to unmask]>>> wrote:
>
>     What version of Learn 9 are you running and what
> version of the
>     BasicLTI building block is installed?
>
>     Stephen
>
>     On 14/11/17 15:08, Tom Salyers wrote:
>
>         Hi, Stephen.
>
>         I know we had an upgrade back in mid-August,
> but I'll have to
>         check to see if we've had any subsequent
> updates. We're using
>         the BasicLTI building block, and as far as I
> can tell, all of
>         the connections to the other tools are working
> all right with
>         the exception of two--a second one to WebPA
> we've set up for
>         testing (which doesn't work at all), and a link
> to Xerte.
>         (Incidentally, the Xerte link is exhibiting
> some of the same
>         persistent-link, one-entry-per-course behavior.
> I don't know if
> there's some connection between the tw
> <https://maps.google.com/?q=there's+some+connection+between+the+tw&entry=gmail&source=g>o
> problems.)
>
>         --
>         Tom Salyers
>         VLE Developer
>
>         The University of Sheffield
>         Corporate Information & Computing Services (CiCS)
> 10-12 Brunswick Street
> <https://maps.google.com/?q=10-12+Brunswick+Street+%0D+%C2%A0+%C2%A0+%C2%A0+%C2%A0+Sheffield,+S10&entry=gmail&source=g>
> Sheffield, S10
> <https://maps.google.com/?q=10-12+Brunswick+Street+%0D+%C2%A0+%C2%A0+%C2%A0+%C2%A0+Sheffield,+S10&entry=gmail&source=g>
> 2FN
>         Tel:  0114 222 1141
> [log in to unmask]
> <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
> <mailto:[log in to unmask]
> <mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
>         <mailto:[log in to unmask]
> <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
>         <mailto:[log in to unmask]
> <mailto:[log in to unmask]>>>
>
>
>         On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 3:02 PM, Stephen P Vickers
>         <[log in to unmask]
> <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
>         <mailto:[log in to unmask]
> <mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
>         <mailto:[log in to unmask]
> <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
>
>         <mailto:[log in to unmask]
> <mailto:[log in to unmask]>>>> wrote:
>
>              This sounds like very odd behaviour.
>
>              Has your Learn server been updated
> recently?  Are you using the
>              BasicLTI building block to connect to
> WebPA, or the core LTI
>              functionality in Learn 9, or something
> else?  Are all other LTI
>              connections configured in the same way
> working?
>
>              Stephen
>
>
>              On 14/11/17 14:48, Tom Salyers wrote:
>
>                  Hello, all.
>
>                  We've got an odd problem with our
> WebPA installation, or
>                  possibly with the way our Blackboard
> system is talking
>         to it,
>                  and I hope someone can give me an idea
> of what's going on.
>
>                  After working normally for a while,
> recently (within
>         the last
>                  five to six months) WebPA has started
> behaving
>         unexpectly. You
>                  can still create a form and assessment
> and link to them
>         from a
>                  course in Blackboard, but then:
>
>                  - Any subsequent WebPA entries created
> in that course
>         will point
>                  to the same assessment as the previous
> one.
>
>                  - Any changes in one entry will be
> reflected in the
>         other(s).
>
>                  - Only one column will be created in
> the grade centre,
>                  regardless of how many WebPA entries
> are on the course.
>
>         This is just an educated specul
> <https://maps.google.com/?q=%C2%A0+%C2%A0+%C2%A0+%C2%A0+This+is+just+an+educated+specul&entry=gmail&source=g>ation--I'm
> new to WebPA, and
>                  new-ish to Blackboard--but it sounds
> as if an initial
>         database
>                  record is being created when the first
> WebPA link is
>         created,
>                  and then every link after that points
> to the same record.
>
>                  I could be wrong, of course. Has
> anyone had a similar
>         problem,
>                  or have any insight to what might be
> going on? Thanks
>         in advance.
>
>                  --
>                  Tom Salyers
>                  VLE Developer
>
>                  The University of Sheffield
>                  Corporate Information & Computing
> Services (CiCS)
> 10-12 Brunswick Street
> <https://maps.google.com/?q=10-12+Brunswick+Street+%0D+%C2%A0+%C2%A0+%C2%A0+%C2%A0+%C2%A0%C2%A0+%C2%A0+%C2%A0+%C2%A0+Sheffield,+S10&entry=gmail&source=g>
> Sheffield, S10
> <https://maps.google.com/?q=10-12+Brunswick+Street+%0D+%C2%A0+%C2%A0+%C2%A0+%C2%A0+%C2%A0%C2%A0+%C2%A0+%C2%A0+%C2%A0+Sheffield,+S10&entry=gmail&source=g>
> 2FN
>                  Tel:  0114 222 1141
> [log in to unmask]
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>         <mailto:[log in to unmask]
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>
>
>
>
>
>
> Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity,
> number SC021474
>
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>
>
> Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity,
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