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Re: Risk assessment for heavy atom soaking - examples?

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"Oganesyan, Vaheh" <[log in to unmask]>

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Wed, 6 Sep 2017 19:03:24 +0000

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James,



What you wrote doesn't look like official risk assessment document. However, your essay is very informative and entertaining. Thank you.



Regards,



Vaheh Oganesyan

www.medimmune.com





-----Original Message-----

From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of James Holton

Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2017 2:45 PM

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Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Risk assessment for heavy atom soaking - examples?



Something that could perhaps be of use here is what I like to call the "Anchovie Pizza Equivalent" (APE), which is about 1 microgram of mercury.  According to the Food and Drug Administration website here in the USA the average mercury content of anchovies is 0.34 ppm, which is about 1 microgram per ounce of fish.  Tuna can be higher, but varies a lot from fish to fish.  My point here is that most institutions regard the amount of mercury you bring onsite for purposes of eating for lunch, be it sushi or pizza, as small enough to be negligible.  I tend to agree.  So, one could argue that 1 microgram of Hg per day is a "safe amount".  Especially if you don't eat it.



In terms of protein crystals, a 100 micron wide cube has a volume of 1 nanoliter, and if it were soaked to a final concentration of 50 mM Hg that is 1e-9 L * 50e-3 mol/L *200 g/mol = 10 ng.  So, 100 protein crystals soaked with Hg add up to roughly 1 APE.  Please note that I am in no way encouraging you to eat your protein crystals, and especially not the solutions you soak them in.  You should do your own APE calculations for those.  But I do think it important to note just how tiny the amount of metal in our crystals really is.



Now, mercury is purportedly the second-most-toxic metal after Plutonium.  But Pu derivatives are uncommon.  In fact, until recently

(4zhd) Pu derivatives were unheard of. The authors I'm sure will tell you 4zhd involved no small amount of paperwork.  But as long as you are not working with Pu, you can regard every other metal as less toxic than Hg.



Another good example is selenium; by far the most common metal derivative.  Although toxic, Se is also a dietary requirement.  I suppose this is an excellent demonstration of what "moderation" really means.  The Recommended Daily Allowance (RDA) of selenium in the USA for adult men and pregnant women is 55-60 micrograms per day.  In crystals, one Se atom per 100 amino acids at 50% solvent comes to an overall concentration of 50 mM.  So, a 100 micron crystal contains about 4 ng of Se.  It would take 15,000 such crystals to add up to the US RDA.  The synchrotrons I work at don't go thought that many crystals every day. But even if they did, I'd stick to my commercially available multivitamin to get my dietary selenium.



So, although it is never a good idea to be sloppy with chemicals in the lab, I think it is also important to do the math and think about not just the toxicity of the things we work with on the bench, but the everyday items all around us.  It is never a good idea to be antagonistic with regulators about such things.  They are only trying to do their job, and all they are trained to know about are LD50s and how to stay as far below them as possible.  A little gently-pointed-out insight into non-lethal applications of heavy metals can be helpful all around.  The over-the-counter drug Pepto Bismol (bismuth subsalicylate) is almost 50% bismuth by weight, a metal that is right next to mercury on the periodic table. Brominated vegetable oil contains no bromine, by the way.  And dandruff shampoos such as Selsun Blue make an excellent and surprisingly radiation-hard reference for the selenium edge.



-James Holton

MAD Scientist



On 9/4/2017 3:13 AM, Dr Stephen Graham wrote:

> Hi all,

>

> (This email is aimed primarily at my UK colleagues, but feel free to

> read on and gloat that you don't have to write safety forms in your

> lab/country!).

>

> I need to sort out written risk assessments for heavy atom soaking of

> crystals in my lab. I wondered whether anyone would be willing to

> share the risk assessments they have in their institute/company so

> that I can seek inspiration and make sure I'm keeping up with best

> practice.

>

> Many thanks,

>

> Stephen

>

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