JiscMail Logo
Email discussion lists for the UK Education and Research communities

Help for DATA-PROTECTION Archives


DATA-PROTECTION Archives

DATA-PROTECTION Archives


data-protection@jiscmail.ac.uk


View:

Message:

[

First

|

Previous

|

Next

|

Last

]

By Topic:

[

First

|

Previous

|

Next

|

Last

]

By Author:

[

First

|

Previous

|

Next

|

Last

]

Font:

Proportional Font

LISTSERV Archives

LISTSERV Archives

DATA-PROTECTION Home

DATA-PROTECTION Home

DATA-PROTECTION  August 2017

DATA-PROTECTION August 2017

Options

Subscribe or Unsubscribe

Subscribe or Unsubscribe

Log In

Log In

Get Password

Get Password

Subject:

Re: Joint data controller arrangements - template agreements

From:

Sandre Jones <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Sandre Jones <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Tue, 1 Aug 2017 11:46:53 +0100

Content-Type:

text/plain

Parts/Attachments:

Parts/Attachments

text/plain (35 lines)

I've always recommended to non-DP-expert project leads to "forget" whether parties to an agreement are joint controllers, controllers in common or processors until *after* they have worked out who is responsible for what/who has authority to make what decisions. Otherwise you could end up in an endless circular argument. The basic explanation I use in health is:

Controller in common e.g. commissioner, can determine who the provider is, i.e. who else controls or processes data, has no access to individuals' care records.
Joint controller, e.g. care provider in other setting, both working for same purpose (direct care), making decisions about care based on information from each other (even if only referral letters/no direct share of records)
Processor, e.g. records system provider. We tell them what to do (well, we try with some of them), they have no authority over/input into care decision or right of access to individuals' care records, etc.

Once you have decided who is doing what, a legal definition should be a bit clearer if you absolutely have to have one. I think GDPR is much clearer than DPA on responsibilities, which is nice.

Regards

Sandre

Sandre Jones
T: 07939 725258
E: [log in to unmask]

https://uk.linkedin.com/in/sandre-jones-1b916856

SJ Governance Services Limited (SJGS) is a limited company registered in England & Wales. Registered number: 10423493. Registered office: 21 Hardwick Avenue, Newark, NG24 4AW.
Whilst SJGS will respect and protect your confidentiality and the security of information sent to the best of our ability and as required and permitted by law, please remember that email may be intercepted and should not be considered secure. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, please inform the sender immediately, do not copy or forward to any third party or use the information contained in the email in any way, and delete any originals and attachments from your email system and networks - thank you. Information or advice contained in this communication is given in good faith, without any warranty or acceptance of any liability: you should seek advice from a legal professional if you have any concerns about action you should take.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
     All archives of messages are stored permanently and are
      available to the world wide web community at large at
      http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/data-protection.html
     If you wish to leave this list please send the command
       leave data-protection to [log in to unmask]
All user commands can be found at https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/help/subscribers/subscribercommands.html
 Any queries about sending or receiving messages please send to the list owner
              [log in to unmask]
  Full help Desk - please email [log in to unmask] describing your needs
        To receive these emails in HTML format send the command:
         SET data-protection HTML to [log in to unmask]
   (all commands go to [log in to unmask] not the list please)
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Top of Message | Previous Page | Permalink

JiscMail Tools


RSS Feeds and Sharing


Advanced Options


Archives

May 2018
April 2018
March 2018
February 2018
January 2018
December 2017
November 2017
October 2017
September 2017
August 2017
July 2017
June 2017
May 2017
April 2017
March 2017
February 2017
January 2017
December 2016
November 2016
October 2016
September 2016
August 2016
July 2016
June 2016
May 2016
April 2016
March 2016
February 2016
January 2016
December 2015
November 2015
October 2015
September 2015
August 2015
July 2015
June 2015
May 2015
April 2015
March 2015
February 2015
January 2015
December 2014
November 2014
October 2014
September 2014
August 2014
July 2014
June 2014
May 2014
April 2014
March 2014
February 2014
January 2014
December 2013
November 2013
October 2013
September 2013
August 2013
July 2013
June 2013
May 2013
April 2013
March 2013
February 2013
January 2013
December 2012
November 2012
October 2012
September 2012
August 2012
July 2012
June 2012
May 2012
April 2012
March 2012
February 2012
January 2012
December 2011
November 2011
October 2011
September 2011
August 2011
July 2011
June 2011
May 2011
April 2011
March 2011
February 2011
January 2011
December 2010
November 2010
October 2010
September 2010
August 2010
July 2010
June 2010
May 2010
April 2010
March 2010
February 2010
January 2010
December 2009
November 2009
October 2009
September 2009
August 2009
July 2009
June 2009
May 2009
April 2009
March 2009
February 2009
January 2009
December 2008
November 2008
October 2008
September 2008
August 2008
July 2008
June 2008
May 2008
April 2008
March 2008
February 2008
January 2008
December 2007
November 2007
October 2007
September 2007
August 2007
July 2007
June 2007
May 2007
April 2007
March 2007
February 2007
January 2007
2006
2005
2004
2003
2002
2001
2000
1999
1998


JiscMail is a Jisc service.

View our service policies at https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/policyandsecurity/ and Jisc's privacy policy at https://www.jisc.ac.uk/website/privacy-notice

Secured by F-Secure Anti-Virus CataList Email List Search Powered by the LISTSERV Email List Manager