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Re: Shibboleth and the Azure IdP

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Josh Howlett <[log in to unmask]>

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Discussion list for Shibboleth developments <[log in to unmask]>

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Mon, 5 Jun 2017 13:02:59 +0000

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Hi Alistair,



I think that it is unlikely that Azure AD will be a plausible replacement for Shibboleth in the near future, in the absence of capabilities such as the ability to consume metadata aggregates and so forth.



If you are interested in a "single solution to federated access", I would point you to Jisc's forthcoming Liberate service. This will offer a solution supporting the UK Access Management Federation, Eduroam, Assent, and legacy IP address authentication. We have a number of organisations piloting this today; a beta service starts in July (offered at no cost), and a production service will follow in September (tariff applicable).



https://www.jisc.ac.uk/rd/projects/managed-idp-service



Josh.



> -----Original Message-----

> From: Discussion list for Shibboleth developments [mailto:JISC-

> [log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Alistair Young

> Sent: 05 June 2017 12:16

> To: [log in to unmask]

> Subject: Re: Shibboleth and the Azure IdP

> 

> I’m curious whether Azure AD itself is a ‘better’ IdP than the actual

> ‘Shibboleth’ IdP registered as a tenant app and therefore able to make use of

> SSO, the ‘me’ endpoint and graph API (for attributes not being sent from

> ‘me’, which is intentionally restricted I think). I would think the standard IdP

> as tenant app would give more flexibility in how attributes are munged to

> other attributes, as opposed to storing supplier specific attributes in Azure

> AD. Something that comes up is the pricing for syncing local AD data with

> Azure. The more you sync the more it costs. In that context would it make

> sense to sync the basics and let the IdP take care of how suppliers see those

> attributes? Or is it more attractive to absorb any extra cost in order to have a

> single solution to federated access?

> 

> Alistair

> 

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> On 05/06/2017, 08:58, "Discussion list for Shibboleth developments on

> behalf of Matthew Slowe" <[log in to unmask] on behalf of

> [log in to unmask]> wrote:

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>     On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 09:33:45AM +0000, Andy Swiffin (Staff) wrote:

>     >    In the cloud,  (I'm not sure you could have something called Azure

>     >    anywhere else?!)

> 

>     There is an Azure MFA server you host locally ... also seems to be

>     abandonware :-)

> 

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>     Matthew Slowe | Server Infrastructure Officer

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