Rob
Very impressive, Although it seems more proto-Elizabethan or late Tudor
than Richard Two, who, although he might not have spoke English at all, was
contemporary with Chaucer, Gower and even the Pearl poet. And their
versions of English.
I did though enjoy the hyperbolic expansion of the lingo-not-yet-by-jingo.
Really liked it.
dave
On 17 May 2017 at 09:15, Patrick McManus <[log in to unmask]>
wrote:
> haha nice
>
> Dunning-Kruger McManus
>
>
>
> On 17/05/2017 02:47, Doug Barbour wrote:
>
>> Oh okay, he was right at least on this: "[Trump] is thus the all-time
>> record-holder of the Dunning-Kruger effect, the phenomenon in which the
>> incompetent person is too incompetent to understand his own incompetence.”
>>
>> But with a compliant Congress, he may still get away with being so…
>>
>>
>> Doug
>>
>>> On May 16, 2017, at 7:20 PM, Bill Wootton <[log in to unmask]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Brooks may be a conservative ratbag, Doug but this article seemed well
>>> observed to me:
>>>
>>> https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/05/15/opinion/trump-classified-data.html
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
>>> On Wed, 17 May 2017 at 11:10 am, Doug Barbour <[log in to unmask]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> It was right well found, Robin.
>>>>
>>>> A lengthy look back, & then at where we are ow (I think there are a few
>>>> more local PMs you might include…?).
>>>>
>>>> Bill: I wouldnt rally trust David Brooks as far as I could heave him,
>>>> but…
>>>>
>>>> Doug
>>>>
>>>>> On May 16, 2017, at 6:48 PM, Bill Wootton <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Yes, I kind of presumed as much, Robin about the majority of it. I
>>>>>
>>>> thought
>>>>
>>>>> you had fiddled a bit to make the opening couplet. Amazing. Love 'him
>>>>> of
>>>>> whom the word was moved'. Words move so oddly in the current term
>>>>> limited
>>>>> elected monarch. David Brooks on New York Times points out the
>>>>>
>>>> difficulties
>>>>
>>>>> 'trying to understand a guy whose thoughts are often just six fireflies
>>>>> beeping randomly in a jar'.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bill
>>>>> On Wed, 17 May 2017 at 10:04 am, Robin Hamilton <
>>>>> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Not my words, Bill, but an actual Act of Parliament passed in the
>>>>>> second
>>>>>> year of
>>>>>> the reign of Richard II.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Didn't turn out real well for him either, did it?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Came on it accidentally, and was quite disconcerted at how apposite it
>>>>>>
>>>>> is
>>>>
>>>>> to
>>>>>> certain things being uttered by a current term-limited elected
>>>>>> monarch.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Next down the line: the Divine Right of Presidents -- "I was elected
>>>>>>
>>>>> by
>>>>
>>>>> the
>>>>>> people, and the people are the Voice of God, so anyone who objects to
>>>>>>
>>>>> what
>>>>
>>>>> I do
>>>>>> is committing blasphemy, and will be dealt with accordingly."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Robin
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 17 May 2017 at 00:28 Bill Wootton <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Impressive accretion of moving words here, Robin.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bill
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, 17 May 2017 at 6:20 am, Robin Hamilton <
>>>>>>> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Item, of Devisors of false News and of horrible and false Lyes
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> of Prelates, Dukes, Earls, Barons, and other Nobles, and great
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Men of the Realm, and also of the Chancellor, Treasurer,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Clerk of the Privy Seal, Steward of the King’s House, Justices
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> of the one Bench or of the other, and of other great Officers of
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> the Realm, of things which by the said Prelates, Lords, Nobles,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> and Officers aforesaid were never spoken, done, nor thought, in
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> great Slander of the said Prelates, Lords, Nobles and Officers,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> whereby Debates and Discords might arise between the said
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Lords, or between the Lords and the Commons (which God
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> forbid), and whereof great Peril and Mischief might come to
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> all the Realm, and quick Subversion and Destruction of the
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> said Realm if due remedy be not provided ; it is straitly de-
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> fended upon grievous pain for to eschew the said Damages and
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Perils, that from henceforth none be so hardy to devise, speak,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> or to tell, any false News, Lyes, or other such false things, of
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Prelates, Lords, and of other aforesaid, whereof Discord or any
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Slander might arise within the same Realm, and he that doth
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> the same shall incur and have the pain another time ordained
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> thereof by the Statute of Westminster the first, which will, that
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> he be taken and imprisoned till he have found him of whom the
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> word was moved.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2 R. 2. st. 1. c. 5. [i.e. 1379]
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Douglas Barbour
>>>> [log in to unmask]
>>>>
>>>> http://www.ualberta.ca/~dbarbour/
>>>> http://eclecticruckus.wordpress.com/
>>>>
>>>> Latest books:
>>>> Continuations & Continuations 2 (with Sheila E Murphy)
>>>> http://www.uap.ualberta.ca/UAP.asp?LID=41&bookID=962
>>>> Recording Dates
>>>> (Rubicon Press)
>>>>
>>>> If once a man indulges himself in murder, very soon he comes to think
>>>> little of robbing; and from robbing he comes next to drinking and
>>>> sabbath-breaking, and from that to incivility and procrastination.
>>>>
>>>> Thomas De Quincey
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Douglas Barbour
>> [log in to unmask]
>>
>> http://www.ualberta.ca/~dbarbour/
>> http://eclecticruckus.wordpress.com/
>>
>> Latest books:
>> Continuations & Continuations 2 (with Sheila E Murphy)
>> http://www.uap.ualberta.ca/UAP.asp?LID=41&bookID=962
>> Recording Dates
>> (Rubicon Press)
>>
>> If once a man indulges himself in murder, very soon he comes to think
>> little of robbing; and from robbing he comes next to drinking and
>> sabbath-breaking, and from that to incivility and procrastination.
>> Thomas De Quincey
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
--
David Joseph Bircumshaw
|
