Hi Sebastiano,
I posted the same question recently (in April). Just removed the names
and email ids for confidentiality (as some needs that).
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I think biovia (aka accelrys) have a version, although I’ve never used
it, so I don’t know how good it is. Blair Johnston (Strathclyde)
recently mentioned SOMETHING about biovia ELNs in regards to a version
they are using with the continuous crystal growth people, but I don’t
know if it’s the same one (?)
Have a look here:
http://accelrys.com/products/unified-lab-management/biovia-electronic-lab-notebooks/
Lab archives: http://www.labarchives.com/ We like it a lot.
What sort of data / experiments do you want to store in the ELN?
What do you want to connect it to (if anything)?
Assuming that as you posted to CCP4, I assume that you are thinking of
protein production experiments or crystallography of some form?
We are currently using Biovia Notebook (available on premise (which is
what we have) or hosted I believe) for chemistry, biology and
structural biology (protein production / crystallography)
We are moving to Dotmatics (www.dotmatics.com) for various reasons
(available hosted or on premise). They have a nice protein production
module but nothing specific for crystallography yet, however their ELN
is dynamic enough that something simple could be configured.
Happy to discuss (off the CCP4 board) if you want more information.
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Hi,
this is what we've been using for 10 years or so, and we are happy with it:
http://accelrys.com/micro/notebook-cloud/
Academic licence is appr. 100 USD/user/year.
Markus,
We use labguru, with only a modest amount of enthusiasm on the
part of my lab. You can get it hosted on your own servers, and then
it will meet EU data protection standards. We think it is sort of OK,
but not much better than sort of
Dear Markus,
I have been using Labguru with my lab for the past 18 months or so. I
have found that it is a good solution for many issues. It has its own
foibles that are annoying at times, but no more than anything else!
The key advantages are that it keeps electronic data well paired with
the experimental details, and under the control of the PI; and that
protocols and data are really easy to share between team members; the
disadvantage is that team members need at least a little time to get
used to working with an electronic system, and many people seem very
wedded to paper.
When I was looking for this solution, it seemed that most of the
quality suppliers were proprietary. I suspect that the cost for
proprietary is probably not much more than the personnel costs of
trying to get a free solution to work if you have to host it (some
parts of my university are also pretty unhappy about me using an
externally hosted solution). The conversations that I had in the UK
(admittedly, a couple of years ago) suggested that the suppliers would
also want a significant up-front cost to help set up the hosted
solution - so it made sense to use externally hosted unless a whole
department pretty much was going to move over to ELNs.
As a PI, I would not want to move back to paper notebooks now if I
could avoid it.
Hope this helps,
Dear Markus,
For the last years I have been using LabArchives, since I got an
account for "free" with my Graphpad Prism license. I've been mostly
happy with it. It can automatically upload attachments from a watched
folder, and integrates with some useful software such as Prism and
chemdoodle.
Labfolder also appears to be making progress. Both these have
android-apps that in my opinion increase the likelihood of them
actually being used.
I end up mostly using the notebook for plain text, whereas I would
probably do more free-hand scetches and tables if I had a paper
logbook.
Hi Markus,
Only an option for Mac users but I use Findings which is cheap, stored
locally and can be made to do most of what I need in a lab notebook.
We have this elab developped by an engineer in the Curie Institute
which is free and quite nice:
https://www.elabftw.net/
On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 11:01 AM, Sebastiano Pasqualato
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>
> Dear all,
> another enquiry for the great community!
>
> We are considering the idea of moving to electronic laboratory notebooks
> rather than paper ones.
>
> Are you happily using one and would warmly suggest its implementation?
> Our department does not only deal with biochemical experiments, but performs
> a lot of genomics (big data analysis) and mouse genetics experiments, so
> experience of Notebooks used in departments that also have those activities
> would be a plus.
> We will consider free and paid softwares, if you have information on the
> costs that would be also very much appreciated!
>
> Thanks a lot,
> ciao
> Sebastiano
>
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