Oops, Lawrence
Not sure what you mean here. Probably me, too, really. I like using paper (&, of course, with a new book, reading from that). I certainly use paper for even the most outlandish sound poem, because I want to suggest to an audience that it is ‘text’ as well as whatever else they hear. So the page is part of the performance…
But I was also just saying that usually when I’m beginning, I have a little notebook & a pen or pencil, & that’s how it goes down, to begin with….
Doug
> On Apr 26, 2017, at 8:57 AM, Lawrence Upton <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> oh ok then
> probably me
>
> L
>
> On 26 April 2017 at 15:51, Douglas Barbour <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>> Oh Patrick
>>
>> you’ve started something with that. I won’t go back to clay, but have a
>> real fountain pen, * do, usually, write a first daft (not that they always
>> get changed than much, but sometimes…).
>>
>> Have certainly seen people reading from their smartphones (which I don’t
>> have; but could use my i-pod or). I transferred a sounding piece to my
>> I-pod & except for th pace between the tens, it looked pretty much as on
>> paper ( as we adjust our eyes to the new surface?).
>>
>> A big hmmnnn….? to it all…
>>
>> Doug
>>> On Apr 26, 2017, at 6:44 AM, Lawrence Upton <[log in to unmask]>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Oh yes. I'm all for it. Whatever it is!
>>> In the last hour or two I have been looking at a piece apparently written
>>> on to a mobile recording device 15 years ago -- although I have a faint
>>> suspicion that I wrote it as if I were transcribing... I can hardly
>>> remember it.
>>> I agree with you about trying to track the origins et cetera. Wherever it
>>> comes from in us, let's trackit once it's out!
>>> *
>>> There's plenty of mumbling from people with sheets of typescript -- I
>> won't
>>> even spend time considering the possibility of remembering. Remembering?
>>> And , while I know some who can deliver a fine reading from a smartphone,
>>> it seems more likely that they won't
>>>
>>> L
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 26 April 2017 at 13:31, Bill Wootton <[log in to unmask]>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Heathen knights, Patrick would now make use of lances for selfie sticks
>> no
>>>> doubt. Lawrence, when I rattle out poems on ipad, I still save versions
>> of
>>>> them and send them to desktop. Good to know where stuff came from and
>>>> sometimes the freshness of early drafts still trumps stuff much-mucked
>>>> with.
>>>>
>>>> Bill
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, 26 Apr 2017 at 8:25 PM, Lawrence Upton <[log in to unmask]
>>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I've experienced this poems on a mobile phone stuff.
>>>>> One bit of me finds it exciting -- in some ways
>>>>> but it seems to make sense of the words spaced out meaningfully
>>>> impossible
>>>>> and negates benefits of redrafting -- thinking now of evidence of
>>>>> benefitting writing skills by printing out and redrafting that was
>> known
>>>>> maybe 30 years ago -- but that's been lost or subsumed into "computers
>>>> are
>>>>> good" and now what I think of as idiots' phones subsume even that
>>>>>
>>>>> I tried, at a workshop, to express this a while back. The young person
>>>>> addressed listened very politely and then said "but I don't know about
>>>>> that"
>>>>>
>>>>> L
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 26 April 2017 at 11:02, Patrick McManus <
>>>> [log in to unmask]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> thanks Bill -I have never been able to commit to memory -I remember
>>>> once
>>>>> I
>>>>>> was in a medieval play -had terrible job remembering my few line -hang
>>>> on
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 'her come I a heathen knight for St George to
>>>>>> fight...................................'wel some has stuck over 50
>>>>>> years!!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 26/04/2017 09:49, Bill Wootton wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Printing? What's all this printing stuff, Patrick? At poetry readings
>>>>> I've
>>>>>>> been to recently, poets read their stuff, if they can't commit it to
>>>>>>> memory, straight off their mobile phones or tablets. I'm more like
>>>> your
>>>>>>> 'he' here for the moment but when the next ink cartridge conks, I
>>>> might
>>>>> go
>>>>>>> with the flow. I like your line here 'old a clay tablet'.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bill
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, 26 Apr 2017 at 6:20 PM, Patrick McManus <
>>>>>>> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *ALTHOUGH*
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> he
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> wrote
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> his poems
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> on his super
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> highly efficient
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ultra-modern
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> tech computer
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> he
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> nostalgically
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> printed them up
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> on his beloved
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> old a clay tablet
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> printer
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> /pmcmanus/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> /s156/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>
>> Douglas Barbour
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>>
>> Recent publications: (With Sheila E Murphy) Continuations & Continuations
>> 2 (UofAPress).
>> Recording Dates (Rubicon Press).
>> Listen. If (UofAPress):
>>
>>
>> and as you read
>> the sea is turning its dark pages
>> turning
>> its dark pages.
>>
>> Denise Levertov
>>
Douglas Barbour
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Recent publications: (With Sheila E Murphy) Continuations & Continuations 2 (UofAPress).
Recording Dates (Rubicon Press).
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and as you read
the sea is turning its dark pages
turning
its dark pages.
Denise Levertov
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