Older users of this list may remember the free (philanthropic) website thazt offers some advice on detils, some pernickety and some less so, on Academic |Writing in [British] English - now at
hull-awe.org.uk
Use - recommend - enjoy - and join us!
Peter
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formerly of Study Advice Service
University of Hull
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From: Kruse Otto (kreo) [[log in to unmask]]
Sent: 05 April 2017 21:25
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Subject: AW: Recommendation for grammar/spell check software
Hi Vera,
Even if it may be true that grammar checkers don’t work properly there are more functions which such tools have. For a comparative review on the functions of 10 different writing enhancement softwares you may check here:
http://www.toptenreviews.com/software/education/best-writing-enhancement-software/
Best,
Otto
Von: European Association for the Teaching of Academic Writing - discussions [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Im Auftrag von Roslyn Petelin
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 5. April 2017 20:48
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Betreff: Re: Recommendation for grammar/spell check software
I endorse John’s response 100%.
Roslyn
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From: European Association for the Teaching of Academic Writing - discussions [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Harbord John (LK)
Sent: Thursday, 6 April 2017 12:09 AM
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Subject: Re: Recommendation for grammar/spell check software
Vera’s PhD student, who wanted a tool that would correct her grammar mistakes for her, now has a range of options at her disposal, including those that correct both her grammar and her style.
She should, however, be clear that her work is being corrected by computers, not humans, but also by computers that have been programmed by humans with particular agendas which may be culturally bound and quite often prescriptive. MS Word, for example, dislikes passives because it is from the US, and Americans (from the US at least) tend to dislike passives, while the British by and large are rather fond of them. It also tells us that we may not use “which” without a comma preceding it – because in the US (it seems) all defining clauses must have “that” while all non-defining clauses must have “which.” Many students who do not have English as their first language mislearn this rule, and assume that there is no such thing as a defining clause, changing all their instances to non-defining.
Similarly, many style checking programmes reflect the personal prescriptive preferences of their makers (c.f. Helen Sword’s online supplement to her book Stylish Academic Writing). While professors of English literature do mostly tend to converge in these preferences, their preferences do not always match those of academics in other disciplines. They are also exactly that: preferences, not facts, filtered through the idiocy of a machine. I have tried one or two of these style checkers and the results range from unhelpful to laughable.
We as writing professionals are of course expensive, but writers are often better served when they get help from us than when they get it from computers.
John
From: European Association for the Teaching of Academic Writing - discussions [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Lawrence.Cleary
Sent: 05 April 2017 15:31
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Subject: Re: Recommendation for grammar/spell check software
Hello, all. The site recommended by Peter provides less grammar and style feedback than does MSWord. For some reason, students are either not finding the MSWord tool useful or they are finding sites like the one Peter recommends more user-friendly.
Best regards, Lawrence
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From: European Association for the Teaching of Academic Writing - discussions [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Peter Levrai
Sent: 05 April 2017 13:41
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Subject: Re: Recommendation for grammar/spell check software
Hi Fiona,
Another tool that might be useful is http://www.readingandwritingtools.com/mm/markingmate.html. It's an essay analyser which could be useful as it looks at both language and academic style. As with all essay checkers it needs to be approached with a substantial pinch of salt but students I've used it with have found it useful, particularly when it comes to checking register or over-reliance on certain language items.
Best regards,
Peter
On 5 April 2017 at 11:20, Fiona Henderson <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
Grammarly.com is what we recommend that our students use before coming to us. It has limitations but still worthwhile for promoting some independent learning.
Fiona
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From: European Association for the Teaching of Academic Writing - discussions [mailto:[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>] On Behalf Of Jane Milton
Sent: Wednesday, 5 April 2017 9:04 PM
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Subject: Re: Recommendation for grammar/spell check software
Some of our students have found the free site called grammarly.com<http://grammarly.com> to be useful, partly because the explanations accompanying errors and suggestions are fairly clear.
Jane Milton
NSCAD University,
Director of Writing Resources
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Sent: Wednesday, April 5, 2017 5:39 AM
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Subject: Recommendation for grammar/spell check software
Dear colleagues,
I’ve just received this request from a PhD student, a former workshop participant of mine:
I do write a lot in rush and I can really use a decent grammar check software that goes beyond what MS Word provides. Do you happen to have any recommendation?
Every suggestion, including absolute don’ts, would be appreciated.
Best wishes
Vera
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