Wouldn't it be wonderful if all the naval records were searched for West Indians/Africans/Indians....
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From: The Black and Asian Studies Association [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Susan Bolton / Jeffrey Green
Sent: 13 December 2016 23:09
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Subject: Re: Jamaican RN officer
This is surely a ghost?
The East End Women's Museum states that the husband of Adelaide Knight was the son of a Jamaican naval officer. This has been demonstrated as untrue. Brown was the son of a Guyanese naval petty officer.
Finding a Jamaican naval officer named Brown would not make his son married to Adelaide Knight, of course.
The two daughters deserve investigation - one was a semi-invalid.
Jeff
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Message Received: Dec 12 2016, 11:54 AM
From: "MSherwood"
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Subject: Re: Jamaican RN officer
Could there have been two men named William Brown in the RN? One 'Brown' and the other 'Browne'?
Probably not an unusual name
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From: The Black and Asian Studies Association [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Grannum, Guy
Sent: 12 December 2016 11:08
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Subject: Re: Jamaican RN officer
There are two Royal Navy service records at The National Archives for William Browne, born Demerara (British Guiana) on 10 August 1832. He progressed and ended up as Captain of the hold which might explain the suggestion that he was an 'officer'
ADM 139/463/6252
Continuous service number 6252A
Described as "Coloured man", 5' 4.5"
Volunteered for 10 years on 18 November 1859. Signed with his mark
Ratings:
18 Nov 1859 Able Seaman
1 April 1861 Leading Seaman
7 Aug 1862 Captain of the mast
22 June 1865 Quarter master
14 April 1867 Captain of the hold
to 14 Nov 1872
His record of service continues in ADM 188/46/64675 Continuous service number 64675 Top of form: 18 Nov 1869 for a further 10 years. 5' 6", "Man of colour", trade Carpenter
from 15 Nov 1872 to 11 April 1880 captain of the hold, received good conduct badges, and is recorded as having exemplary "character", pensioned.
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From: The Black and Asian Studies Association [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Susan Bolton / Jeffrey Green
Sent: 10 December 2016 16:16
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Subject: Re: Jamaican RN officer
I have found out bits and pieces on Donald Adolphus Brown and his sisters....
In January 1883 William Brown, a long-serving petty officer in the Royal Navy who had earned a good conduct medal, was charged at Lewes crown court with the murder of his wife Elizabeth. He and his wife, a stepson and their three children lived in Munster on the Isle of Sheppey in the Thames estuary. Brown suffered from epileptic fits. He killed his wife and stabbed his stepson Alfred Rump: the press called this the Sheerness Murder. Brown had cut his own throat and was unable to talk. Found not guilty of murder through insanity, Brown was sent to Broadmoor for the rest of his life. Mark Stevens in his Broadmoor Revealed. Victorian Crime and the Lunatic Asylum (2013) has two pages on Brown. Born in British Guiana (Guyana) around 1832 he married Elizabeth Rump, a widow, in 1871 and retired from the Royal Navy in 1881. He died in Broadmoor in mid-1885. He had two daughters and a son, and a step-family. The three children were sent to the Sheppey workhouse and from there the son Donald went to Greenwich Royal Hospital School for the orphans of sailors. Donald Adolphus Brown was born in Sheppey in the summer of 1873 and a sister Anna in the winter of 1871-1872. Anna kept in touch with their father in Broadmoor by letter and visits. The other sister, Amanda, became a servant girl.
My sources were:
Mark Stevens, Broadmoor Revealed. Victorian Crime and the Lunatic Asylum (Barnsley: Pen and Sword Books, 2013), pp 81-82. On 7 January 1919 Donald Brown, a foreman at the Woolwich Arsenal, ‘certainly saved many lives’ when he dealt with a fire there (The Times 9 March 1921 [sic] announced the award of the Edward Medal for this bravery). Donald Brown was a radical in East End London and had married a suffragette, Eliza Adelaide Knight. She had been in prison because of her protests over the lack of votes for women, in the 1900s. Donald Brown’s photograph appears in Susan Okokon’s Black Londoners 1880-1990 (Sutton Publishing, 1998, page 33) but confusion is created by the author’s statement that his father was Jamaican, and that Donald Brown had been born in Woolwich in 1874 for his birth was registered in the third quarter of 1873 in Sheppey.
Summary:
There seem to be a number of errors in the website page, some due to Susan Okokon's book. William Brown was a petty officer having served in the RN for 21 years (not an officer), born not in Jamaica but in British Guiana. The 1921 bravery (as on the website page) was actually in 1919 and the medal itself was awarded in 1921. Mind you, perhaps the files at Broadmoor are wrong?
Seasonal greetings to all
Jeff Green
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Message Received: Dec 10 2016, 08:56 AM
From: "Kathleen Chater"
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Subject: Jamaican RN officer
For those of you who are looking at the armed forces, the Newham Recorder had a piece about Adelaide Knight (b. 1871), leader of the Canning Town branch of the Women's Social & Political Union. Her husband, Donald Adolphus Brown, was the son of a Jamaican officer in the Royal Navy. There's a photo of them on
http://eastendwomensmuseum.org/adelaide-knight-leader-of-the-first-east-london-suffragettes/
The focus here is on Adelaide but her father-in-law's career might be interesting to research.
Kathleen
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