Dear all, 

I think I feel differently about this. I wonder whether we could hear in Hilary's many posts a desire to share something that he/she finds interesting and hopes someone else might too. And perhaps that's not really so different to how many of us relate to our research and work. And perhaps amongst all the people who subscribe to this list someone does find something of interest. It's not for me to judge. And, if we don't, it takes almost no time at all to delete an occasional email and think about something else entirely (provided, of course, they are not worded in a way that might cause hurt and injury). 

Best wishes, 

Ben

Professor Ben Anderson 
Department of Geography 
Durham University 
https://www.dur.ac.uk/geography/staff/geogstaffhidden/?id=985
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From: A forum for critical and radical geographers [[log in to unmask]] on behalf of Linda Estelí Méndez [[log in to unmask]]
Sent: 30 November 2016 20:42
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Subject: Re: Does Gaiai need some chemo?

Every year since I've joined this list (a few years now..), the 'Hillary hiccup' never disappoints (read with sarcasm here)! I was wondering when were you going to screw up again this year? Right after thanksgiving 2016 it is!

Why is it that after all of this time, we have not reach to a unanimous conclusion that this person can't just help himself/herself. Why don't we all just agree that in light of his/her repeated behavior we can move on and he/she can do that as well, with a twitter account or whatever chosen, and get him/her out of the list?


On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 12:19 PM, Erin Araujo <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
Dear Dr. Hillary J. Shaw,
Please understand that no one on this list is calling you names, not even snowflakes.  I’d like to express to you in the kindest of words that people on the list are respecting your work by asking you to open a twitter account.  This forum is not the appropriate place for your posts.  Your writing covers a wide range of topics.  The problem that arises is that many people spend years if not a life-time of intense work in investigating the complexities, intimacies and fascinating provocations that arise in the process of research of each topic.  It is often out of the work of people on this list that you appropriate the statistics that you use.  The work that is done in conjunction with this space is the work of knowledge production in all of its facets.  There are great struggles within the production of knowledge.  For me, the critical in critical geography arises through those struggles.  They are epistemic and ontological as expressed through a complexity of theory/praxis/agency/assemblage etc.  That is what is meant when your writing is critiqued as banal.  The topics you cover do not reflect or resonate within a praxis of extensive investigation.

Furthermore, I think many people on this list highly respect and often demand empathy in the communications that transpire in this forum.  Do you care so little about the way that you injure others that you can only think about the injury you yourself have received in being told you have offended someone?  Why seek to demean people that criticize your work?  Why demean a graduate student?  Why insist on using an inappropriate metaphor that further hurts people that are already in pain over losing a loved one?  Your comments reflect a lack of empathy.  Much of the work that comprises the immensity of what is critical geography is driven by empathy.

So please, Hillary, we all have a lot of work to do, a sea of emails each day, and complex discussions to have; get a twitter account.

Please understand, I wouldn’t have taken an hour out of my day to write this or added another email to this already frustrating conversation if I didn’t think sharing this with you was important.

Sincerely,


Erin Araujo

On Nov 30, 2016, at 11:15 AM, J.P. Sapinski <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:

The analogy has been made many times, it's simply about the mechanism of exponential growth that drives both *capitalism* (not just population/urban growth, you gotta name what you're talking about) and cancer, nothing new.

The comment about chemo is very inappropriate, it is the same language the neo-nazis, white supremacists, etc. use. If you had any idea how chemotherapy works you'd understand.

jp


On 2016-11-30 07:01, Hillary Shaw wrote:
Hmmm, number of listmembers on CG = almost 5,000, all (well mostly all) adult. Expected mortality rate overall = 70 per year, or 1 every 2 months. Include immediate friends and family, that's over 1 per week. Expected mortality from cancer alone, ca. 1 per month. Sorry, snowflakes, but we're never more than 1 month away from a tragic death of a close loved one  from cancer on this list. Does that mean we can never mention the word at all? Not even in an impersonal ecological setting?

Dr Hillary J. Shaw
Director and Senior Research Consultant
Shaw Food Solutions
Newport
Shropshire
TF10 8QE
www.fooddeserts.org<http://www.fooddeserts.org/>



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From: David C Gibbs <[log in to unmask]><mailto:[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Wed, Nov 30, 2016 1:25 pm
Subject: Re: Does Gaiai need some chemo?

Hillary

Given the recent loss of our colleague Sally Eden at Hull I find this needless allusion to cancer insensitive & crass & I'm sure others with family
/friends In similar situations will as well

Please take the longstanding advice on this Forum & get a twitter account - that way people have to opt in to read your banal ramblings

David
On 30 Nov 2016, at 16:24, Hillary Shaw <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:

an't help feeling here's a slight similarity between this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p16m5BBjXUQ    (cancer cells spreading)

and this

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3984622/Australia-Timelapse-satellite-shows-Sydney-Melbourne-Perth-Hobart-Darwin-Canberra-Adelaide-Brisbane-changed.html

(Australian cities growing,  time lapse video)

Maybe Gaiai needs some chemotherapy :>)

Dr Hillary J. Shaw
Director and Senior Research Consultant
Shaw Food Solutions
Newport
Shropshire
TF10 8QE
www.fooddeserts.org<http://www.fooddeserts.org/>

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