I answer "in my opinion and based in the information provided today by the employee" and "the employee perceives their issues to be work related I have suggested they detail their issues and raise them with their manager and HR"
Catherine Farrimond
Hitchens Foods
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> On 18 Aug 2016, at 16:37, Jenny Ware <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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> In my experience this has been explained that because it is only the opinion / perception of the employee, the GP and also OHA/OHP's can only report what the employee tells us, we do not know that this is factually correct.
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> I have seen this got round by writing " Jo Bloggs is experiencing an episode of perceived work related stress".
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> Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2016 15:09:30 +0000
> From: Hazel Archer <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Fit note with work related stress
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> Hi everyone
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> I have a colleague who has been told by her GP that he is not allowed to put work related stress on her sick note. As we are still receiving sick notes with WR stress as the reason for absence, I wondered if anyone could shed any light on this?
>
> Particularly if you are a GP. Is this true? Can we challenge WR stress on a sick note?
>
> Cheers H
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> Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2016 15:16:15 +0000
> From: "Parsons Helen Margert (KING'S COLLEGE HOSPITAL NHS FOUNDATION TRUST)"
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> Subject: Re: Fit note with work related stress
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> Hi there
> I think that GPs can put anything that they want on fit notes, however I am guessing that this GP may not be convinced of the reason if they are refusing to do so. We can during our consultations explore the reasons for the absence and it may be that the absence is caused by what the employee perceives as a stressful situation at work, that’s what we aim to tease out at in our consultation. Thing is stress is a very subjective thing and the slightest thing cause some employees to feel stressed where as others are more resilient.
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> Helen
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> Helen Parsons
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> From: [log in to unmask] [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Hazel Archer
> Sent: 16 August 2016 16:10
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> Subject: [OCC-HEALTH] Fit note with work related stress
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> Hi everyone
>
> I have a colleague who has been told by her GP that he is not allowed to put work related stress on her sick note. As we are still receiving sick notes with WR stress as the reason for absence, I wondered if anyone could shed any light on this?
>
> Particularly if you are a GP. Is this true? Can we challenge WR stress on a sick note?
>
> Cheers H
>
> Hazel Archer
> Occupational Health Adviser
> Greggs Bakery Leeds
> Tel: 01132180224
> Mob: 07802398337
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> Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2016 15:19:48 +0000
> From: Hazel Archer <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: Fit note with work related stress
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> Hi
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> It’s not that they refused, as the GP agreed it was due to work, it was that the GP stated she wasn’t allowed to put it on a fit note.
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> I just wondered if that was now the case.
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> Cheers H
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> From: [log in to unmask] [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Parsons Helen Margert (KING'S COLLEGE HOSPITAL NHS FOUNDATION TRUST)
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> Subject: Re: [OCC-HEALTH] Fit note with work related stress
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> Hi there
> I think that GPs can put anything that they want on fit notes, however I am guessing that this GP may not be convinced of the reason if they are refusing to do so. We can during our consultations explore the reasons for the absence and it may be that the absence is caused by what the employee perceives as a stressful situation at work, that’s what we aim to tease out at in our consultation. Thing is stress is a very subjective thing and the slightest thing cause some employees to feel stressed where as others are more resilient.
>
> Helen
>
> Helen Parsons
> Principal Occupational Health Nurse Adviser Department of Occupational Health and Wellbeing Kings College Hospital NHS Foundation Trust Denmark Hill London
> SE5 9RS
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> Telephone: 020 3299 7535
> Email: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>
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> From: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Hazel Archer
> Sent: 16 August 2016 16:10
> To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: [OCC-HEALTH] Fit note with work related stress
>
> Hi everyone
>
> I have a colleague who has been told by her GP that he is not allowed to put work related stress on her sick note. As we are still receiving sick notes with WR stress as the reason for absence, I wondered if anyone could shed any light on this?
>
> Particularly if you are a GP. Is this true? Can we challenge WR stress on a sick note?
>
> Cheers H
>
> Hazel Archer
> Occupational Health Adviser
> Greggs Bakery Leeds
> Tel: 01132180224
> Mob: 07802398337
>
> Please be advised that all e-mail communication relevant to assisting in the management of the OH process will be entered into the individual’s OH file. This may be disclosed to the client under the Data Protection Act (1998)
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> Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2016 16:24:05 +0100
> From: "[log in to unmask]" <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: Fit note with work related stress
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> Some GPs may write ³Work Related Stress² on a fit note. However, strictly speaking work related stress is not a diagnosis as per ICSD-10. So this may be the reason why the GP is stating that s/he is not allowed to write this as a diagnosis.
>
> Anne
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>> On 16/08/2016 16:09, "Hazel Archer" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>
>> Hi everyone
>>
>> I have a colleague who has been told by her GP that he is not allowed
>> to put work related stress on her sick note. As we are still receiving
>> sick notes with WR stress as the reason for absence, I wondered if
>> anyone could shed any light on this?
>>
>> Particularly if you are a GP. Is this true? Can we challenge WR stress
>> on a sick note?
>>
>> Cheers H
>>
>> Hazel Archer
>> Occupational Health Adviser
>> Greggs Bakery Leeds
>> Tel: 01132180224
>> Mob: 07802398337
>>
>> Please be advised that all e-mail communication relevant to assisting
>> in the management of the OH process will be entered into the individual¹s OH file.
>> This may be disclosed to the client under the Data Protection Act
>> (1998)
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> Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2016 20:13:57 +0000
> From: Lorraine anderson-cole <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: Fit note with work related stress
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> I would still refer to HSE guidance and totally agree with Anne that it is what is perceived work related stress which must be addressed.
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> From: "[log in to unmask]" <[log in to unmask]>
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> Sent: Tuesday, 16 August 2016, 16:24
> Subject: Re: [OCC-HEALTH] Fit note with work related stress
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> Re: [OCC-HEALTH] Fit note with work related stressSome GPs may write “Work Related Stress” on a fit note. However, strictly speaking work related stress is not a diagnosis as per ICSD-10. So this may be the reason why the GP is stating that s/he is not allowed to write this as a diagnosis.
>
> Anne
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>
> On 16/08/2016 16:09, "Hazel Archer" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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>
> Hi everyone
>
> I have a colleague who has been told by her GP that he is not allowed to put work related stress on her sick note. As we are still receiving sick notes with WR stress as the reason for absence, I wondered if anyone could shed any light on this?
>
> Particularly if you are a GP. Is this true? Can we challenge WR stress on a sick note?
>
> Cheers H
>
> Hazel Archer
> Occupational Health Adviser
> Greggs Bakery Leeds
> Tel: 01132180224
> Mob: 07802398337
>
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> Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2016 23:23:04 +0300
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> Hi friend!
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