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Re: What designers can do, should do, and might do

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Fernando Alberto Alvarez Romero <[log in to unmask]>

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Dear professor Jinan;  I find your paper quite reflexive and I so
inspiring. But I could notice a piece of unsustainable issue also
defuturing (Fry, 2012). Let me explain with the toy cart made from a
plastic bottle photo in your paper.



Estimado profesor Jinan encuentro su artículo muy importante para la
reflexión. Pero no pude evitar notar asuntos de –no sostenimiento- y de
–defuturación- (Fry, 2012). Permítame explicarme con su ejemplo del carrito
de juguete en su artículo.



The thing is that a symbolic play is great to child, but the car reference
in the idea of sustain-ability seems to me contradictory. Following Tony
Fry idea, perhaps a toy cart made from a plastic bottle, is a good example
about kind of sustainable reuse. Nonetheless, is not enough in a
sustain-ability idea. Due to the fact that implies -defuturing- adult
choise (quite natural desire in some societies as a modern consume
paradigm), specially in non wenstern societies such as I live in
(middle-class dwellers in Colombia wants a car, no matter their economic
situation). It prepares a future consumers to this kind of unsustainable
devises (another example are: Disney  stereotypes, wenstern movies
stereotypes, and stuff). Also, implies more paths, maintain the system,
more polution, as well known.



Sin duda, es importante el juego simbólico en el desarrollo del niño, pero
la referencia del carro en una idea de sostenimiento es algo
contradictoria. Siguiendo las ideas de Tony Fry, quizá es carrito hecho con
la botella de plástico es un buen ejemplo de un tipo de sostenibilidad de
reuso. No obstante, no lo es tanto como una idea de -sostenimiento-, debido
al hecho de que implica una  futura elección de adulto defuturada (lo cual
puede ser muy natural en algunas sociedades dentro del paradigma moderno
del consumo), especialmente en sociedades no occidentales como en la que
vivo (algunos habitantes de clase media en Colombia quieren un carro, no
importa su situación económica). Esto al parecer prepara a futuros
consumidores y los lleva a este tipo de legados insostenibles por lo tanto
defuturados (otros ejemplos son los estereotipos de Disney, películas de
estereotipos occidentales, y esas cosas). Además, implica más carreteras,
mantenimiento del sistema, más contaminación, como es bien conocido.



So, I recognise your remarks about an attitude for sustainability built in
to the cognitive space, also vernacular sustainable traditions. But I would
like to point out that besides sustainability, Fry invite us to consider
Sustain-ability, also consider  Futuring design in order to contribute with
types of life styles more appropiate to diversity (not only a mono-cultural
path) but also ideas of wellbeing, Buenvivir, Suma quamaña or Sumak Kausay,
among others.





Por lo tanto, reconozco sus observaciones acerca de una actitud hacia la
sostenibilidad integrada al espacio cognitivo también, las tradiciones
vernáculas  que son muy sostenibles. Pero me gustaría señalar que además de
la sostenibilidad, Fry nos invita a considerar la capacidad de
sostenimiento y también tener en cuenta una perspectiva futurada del
diseño, con el fin de contribuir con los tipos de estilos de vida más
apropiados con la diversidad (no sólo con una trayectoria monocultural),
sino también con las ideas de bienestar, buen vivir, Suma Quamaña o Sumak
Kausay, entre otros.


Fry, T. (2012). Becoming human by design. London: Berg


*Fernando Alberto Álvarez Romero*
*PROFESOR ASOCIADO II*
PROGRAMA DE DISEÑO INDUSTRIAL
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On 12 July 2016 at 20:31, Jinan K B <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> Friends
>
> I feel the more we focus on designing 'products' outside we will
> travel along the same path. One way could be to design 'inside' by
> which I mean design cognitive conditions that form 'sustainable'
> people. Then instead of creativity we may have to shift to sensitivity
> as the primary criterion of what we want of the 'learner'.
>
> I have been studying the quality within the human being that lives
> sustainably and the ones which don't. This is not to blame anyone but
> to understand OBJECTIVELY what causes human being to become anti
> nature or pro nature.
> Ecological crisis is a cognitive crisis- how we perceive the world and
> become what we become!
> What we are encountering is a cognitive crisis. For the 'modern man'
> sustainability is an afterthought. In his beingness (formative
> conditions) the seed for sustainability is missing. So the context/
> conditions and the process with in the sustainable cultures needs to
> be the first and for most thing to be understood. So not only what is
> produced but what makes them produce that.
>
> There is an assumption that the modern man and traditional man are
> very similar. (one is educated and the other is not!) This is not
> true. They are of totally different being ness/ paradigm. We assume
> that the by changing the use of materials sustainability can be
> brought back. This is possible only by initiating some fundamental
> changes within the human being. Modern man is an engineered being,
> disconnected from his own being and
> his context.
>
>  An example of the impact of cognitive condition on the formation of
> beingess is about the word 'waste'.
> There is no  word for waste in non literate communities and hence the
> very concept called waste is absent. People use, re use, recycle
> everything with out that being any 'conscious' decision. It is part
> and parcel of their being-ness. So in their world view ' waste' is
> absent. I know you will find it difficult to believe me.
> Just by keeping a waste paper basket in our living rooms we teach
> children to waste. The concept of wasting is introduced by the
> cognitive condition.
>
> Production of waste is the first anti nature activity invented by man
> as there is 'waste' in nature!
>
> I would bring in re imagining education as the key aspect and to look
> at Design and architecture education as designing of cognitive space
> that enable the awakening or re connection with existential values of
> sustainability and survival of life.
>
> I have looked at what is happening to the vernacular way of building
> from 1992 to date as i have been living with a traditional potters
> community and have seen how it all changed in this span of 20 odd
> years.
>
> Vernacular cultures knew how to live and let live. But modernity won't
> let this happen as it is not in its DNA to let the other survive.
>
> By the by the very terminology we use establish the hierarchy.
> 'Modern' implies superior as opposed to 'tradition' and all the other
> terms that modernity creates is done with this in mind. I no longer
> use indigenous/ traditional, vernacular etc to describe the other way
> of knowing and being. I use the word existential knowledge system due
> to its quality of timeless ness, universality, sustainability and the
> total life sustaining quality. Even though it is contextual it is also
> universal in its principles. Or another way of naming them would be
> contextual and non contextual. This would be more objective. The same
> goes with the use of the terms 'literates' and 'illiterates'!
>
> I am sorry i may sound very pessimistic. No. on the contrary I am
> telling there are no short cuts or compromises possible.
> Mono culture of modernity has impacted not only architecture but all
> aspects of life. We need to engage at this level to tackle this.
> Designer/ Architect is in a position to engage with this as their
> profession in reality encompasses all this. (we don't practice that
> way). A true architect/ designer has to be an anthropologist/
> sociologist/ historian(more objectively than is done today)/
> psychologist/ educationist/ artist and finally a technologist. We
> seems to be engaging with the last two
> only.
> Why I am raising these issues are to keep this in mind so that
> whatever we plan to do we undertake it with total humility and respect
> and with an understanding that we are attempting the impossible
> (because there will be lots of chicken and egg situations).
>
> Sustainability is  the way of Nature. It can't be practiced as an
> afterthought. Sustainable system is one in which harmony of all
> aspects of production- man, material, method have a symbiotic
> relationship. In the act of engaging with the world man is awakened to
> the cyclic nature of life. This defines the process and the way
> material- re source-able, renew-able, re generate-able and
> recycle-able- is used.
>
> I have a paper at academia on this.
>
> https://www.academia.edu/7285844/To_Hell_with_Good_Intentions_Lessons_on_sustainability_and_psychological_well_being_from_socio-culturally_rich_but_techno-economically_poor_communities
>
> --
> Jinan,
> 'DIGITAL MEDIUM IS A TOOL.DIGITALLY  MEDIATED KNOWLEDGE DESTROYS THE BEING'
> http://rethinkingfoundation.weebly.com/
> existentialknowledgefoundation.weebly.com
> www.re-cognition.org
> www.kumbham.org
> reimaginingschools.wordpress.com
> http://designeducationasia.blogspot.com/
> https://independent.academia.edu/JinanKodapully
> 09447121544
> 0487 2386723
>
>
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