JiscMail Logo
Email discussion lists for the UK Education and Research communities

Help for AACORN Archives


AACORN Archives

AACORN Archives


AACORN@JISCMAIL.AC.UK


View:

Message:

[

First

|

Previous

|

Next

|

Last

]

By Topic:

[

First

|

Previous

|

Next

|

Last

]

By Author:

[

First

|

Previous

|

Next

|

Last

]

Font:

Proportional Font

LISTSERV Archives

LISTSERV Archives

AACORN Home

AACORN Home

AACORN  June 2016

AACORN June 2016

Options

Subscribe or Unsubscribe

Subscribe or Unsubscribe

Log In

Log In

Get Password

Get Password

Subject:

Re: Quality of art products in arts-based methods in organizations

From:

Creativepathways <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Creativepathways <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Sat, 11 Jun 2016 06:50:57 +1200

Content-Type:

text/plain

Parts/Attachments:

Parts/Attachments

text/plain (36 lines)

Hi Steve,

Thanks. I  believe your question is a critical one and see the question of judgment of the works naturally arising with answers always being conditional. However putting the tangible art work aside for the moment and considering the intrinsic process of its making. I offer the quality of all outcomes are commensurate with the quality of engagement and its that that can be limited by the quality of the artwork available or being made.

Engagement comes first in my world and I consider this on two levels-  the second person observer of art and the first person maker of art.

Placing an emphasis on the later is emphasising the process of being involved as the maker producing the outcome; an emphasis on embodied learning. The first is maybe a necessary introduction to making for some people but is an arms length involvement where learning is inclined to be more cognitive in its realisation, and music is not an exception here.

When people in either situation are ‘pushed into' or better ‘pushed by' the process the outcomes have more significance. (more learning, different learning, new ideas). Being extended means often there is a phase of frustration and confusion as newbies to art based ideas/practises shift their perceptions. A difficult stage to work through but mostly a sure sign of change.

So I advocate when ‘observing' art it must be of a high standard so the observer wont easily find limits to their engagement. If the work is good an experienced facilitator can point out (teach) what might be implicitly understood but not conscious therefore extending the engagement.
On the other hand when people create art it is emphasising an embodied learning that is mostly limited by their skills in the chosen art form. The focus of successfully facilitating these experiences falls back on design. Summarising. In my experience once people become intrinsically engaged in the process the medium becomes secondary. Focusing on the quality of each individuals engagement becomes the quality of the overall learning and its outcomes, be they skills or art works.

best
David
Creativepathways

Sent from my iPhone

> On 10/06/2016, at 12:15 AM, Taylor, Steven S <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> 
> Hi, everyone
> 
> Last week at EURAM, Philippe Mairesse spoke about his work with accounting students and talked about how he pushed the students to do work that was better art. I am also struck that Jane Hilberry also spoke about how she pushes students to write better poetry (http://digitalcommons.wpi.edu/oa/vol1/iss1/6/). This has gotten me thinking about the question of quality of the art (product/outcome) when using arts-based methods for leadership/managerial development – in short does it matter if the art is good if we’re not doing it to produce good art? I don’t think anyone would claim that the LEGO sculptures created in a Serious Play process are good art, or even that the facilitators try to get people to create better (rather worse) art as part of the process.
> 
> My first take on this is that pushing for better quality art also pushes farther into deeply embodied and often mysterious knowing and away from just representing our cognitive processes in visual (or poetic or whatever) forms. It pushes us into more ambiguous and more interesting forms that also allow to go to new places (Barry & Meisiek’s departures) than something more straight forward and cognitive does. Thus the push for better art also has a very useful purpose.
> 
> So, what do you think? How does concern for the quality of the art product/outcome fit into your own practice of arts-based methods in organizations (if you have one and it does)? How would you think about this? What questions does this raise for you?
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Steve Taylor
> 
>  Steven S. Taylor, PhD
> [cid:4FEA4C90-AEE4-4F3C-99DF-657EB4452699]

Top of Message | Previous Page | Permalink

JiscMail Tools


RSS Feeds and Sharing


Advanced Options


Archives

March 2024
February 2024
December 2023
November 2023
September 2023
July 2023
June 2023
May 2023
February 2023
January 2023
December 2022
October 2022
September 2022
June 2022
May 2022
April 2022
March 2022
February 2022
January 2022
December 2021
November 2021
October 2021
September 2021
August 2021
July 2021
June 2021
May 2021
April 2021
March 2021
February 2021
January 2021
December 2020
September 2020
August 2020
July 2020
June 2020
May 2020
April 2020
March 2020
January 2020
December 2019
October 2019
August 2019
July 2019
June 2019
April 2019
March 2019
February 2019
January 2019
December 2018
November 2018
October 2018
September 2018
August 2018
July 2018
June 2018
May 2018
April 2018
March 2018
February 2018
January 2018
December 2017
November 2017
October 2017
September 2017
August 2017
July 2017
June 2017
May 2017
April 2017
March 2017
February 2017
January 2017
December 2016
November 2016
October 2016
September 2016
August 2016
July 2016
June 2016
May 2016
April 2016
March 2016
February 2016
January 2016
December 2015
November 2015
October 2015
September 2015
August 2015
July 2015
June 2015
May 2015
April 2015
March 2015
February 2015
January 2015
December 2014
November 2014
October 2014
September 2014
August 2014
July 2014
June 2014
May 2014
April 2014
March 2014
February 2014
January 2014
December 2013
November 2013
October 2013
September 2013
August 2013
July 2013
June 2013
May 2013
April 2013
March 2013
February 2013
January 2013
December 2012
November 2012
October 2012
September 2012
August 2012
July 2012
June 2012
May 2012
April 2012
March 2012
February 2012
January 2012
December 2011
November 2011
October 2011
September 2011
August 2011
July 2011
June 2011
May 2011
April 2011
March 2011
February 2011
January 2011
December 2010
November 2010
October 2010
September 2010
August 2010
July 2010
June 2010
May 2010
April 2010
March 2010
February 2010
January 2010
December 2009
November 2009
October 2009
September 2009
August 2009
July 2009
June 2009
May 2009
April 2009
March 2009
February 2009
January 2009
December 2008
November 2008
October 2008
September 2008
August 2008
July 2008
June 2008
May 2008
April 2008
March 2008
February 2008
January 2008
December 2007
November 2007
October 2007
September 2007
August 2007
July 2007
June 2007
May 2007
April 2007
March 2007
February 2007
January 2007
December 2006
November 2006
October 2006
September 2006
August 2006
July 2006
June 2006
May 2006
April 2006
March 2006
February 2006
January 2006
December 2005
November 2005
October 2005
September 2005
August 2005
July 2005
June 2005
May 2005
April 2005
March 2005
February 2005
January 2005
December 2004
November 2004
October 2004
July 2004


JiscMail is a Jisc service.

View our service policies at https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/policyandsecurity/ and Jisc's privacy policy at https://www.jisc.ac.uk/website/privacy-notice

For help and support help@jisc.ac.uk

Secured by F-Secure Anti-Virus CataList Email List Search Powered by the LISTSERV Email List Manager