Raimund, we know what the immediate impact of Europe will be. The EU is
amongst the worst performing economic units, young unemployment is high
the continent is suffering from various riots and terrorist incidents.
We have already seen much of our industry pushed out to places with the
recent closure of UK steel more or less bringing our heavy industry to
an end. The Euro is on the verge of collapse as the economic disparity
between countries like Greece and Germany increases. The cost of Europe
increases, there are no benefits for most people - only big companies
and organisations like the EU.
If you think the UK will somehow miraculously buck the EU trend of
economic stagnation that is prevalent in the EU so we can afford the
current massive spending on academia you are living in cloud cuckoo land.
THE ONLY WAY TO SECURE SPENDING ON ACADEMIA - IS TO HAVE A ROBUST
We must learn from history. Anyone who has read Caesar's conquest of
Gaul, Germania, Agricola can still recognise the national
characteristics of those countries that have last the last 2000 years.
There is no way we can force this cultures to homogenise into some clone
like EU identity.
The Romans tried it, Napoleon tried it, Hitler tried it - now the EU is
just the latest incarnation the power grab mentality trying to force all
the various nationalities into one homogeneous master nation, with one
economy, one identity, one culture, one law with just a thin veneer of
democracy covering the unelected & inefficient rule by EUrocrats.
On 26/05/2016 14:48, Raimund Karl wrote:
> And yeah, well, those wonderful future treaties: of course they maybe can be sorted out. The problem is: they may as well not. We currently have those benefits, guaranteed. We may be able to get them again if we sort out some treaties, but until such treaties are made - and I'm reasonably sure they won't be on the top of any government's agenda, since there's all those economic issues to be sorted first - they won't be there anymore. That is, they will be gone, for sure, at least for a while, and no one can say whether we will get them ever again.
> And where those immediate economic impacts are concerned: nobody knows what they will be, and indeed, nobody can know. It thus is moot to argue about them. We don't know what they will be, and can at best make wild guesses. Making decisions based on wild guesses is never a good idea.
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> On 26/05/2016 14:17, Raimund Karl wrote:
>> That is the moral high ground in archaeology, if you are looking for any.
> Nicely put. Agree with every word.
> Unfortunately there are those who don't understand such intricacies and who think they can be sorted out by future treaties, and the way to make them understand those matters is make them immediately see an economic impact on their job prospects etc. It is sad and uninspiring but effective.
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