Mike - you are entirely wrong - except that I agree this is not really the
correct forum, so no more from me,
On 25 May 2016 at 11:50, Michael <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Unlike Hugo, who is using publicly paid for University resources to
> campaign on this forum, I have taken time out to work for free on the vote
> leave campaign.
> But, unlike Hugo, I have been keeping quiet as I did not thing it was
> But as I see several people supporting the raising of this subject, what
> I'm hearing loud and clear (from all those except the ones on the EU gravy
> train) is that the EU is the worst thing that has happened to our country
> and that if you value democracy you will vote to leave, because otherwise
> it will be the last meaningful vote we have.
> Back to archaeology?
> Mike Haseler
> On 24/05/2016 18:07, Blake, Hugo wrote:
>> Academics who favour Britain remaining in the European Union may care to
>> The site is morphing into Academics for Britain in Europe.
>> From: Andrew Knapp [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>> Sent: 18 May 2016 22:47
>> To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>
>> Subject: Four important things for Historians for Britain in Europe
>> Dear colleagues
>> Please try and read all of this longish e-mail if you possibly can!
>> We seem to be doing quite well: moving up towards 250. Many thanks to all
>> who made this possible by circulating the site address. Keep it going.
>> Four important things to mention.
>> 1 Donations?
>> So far we have built this site on the donations of a few people. We have
>> now spent through that and are still making calls on James, our webmaster
>> (whose firm is Metagames), to add more people, links to things you have
>> written, and so on.
>> So there is now a Donate button. Please could you think about making a
>> donation, even a small one, to keep us going? A little from everyone would
>> work wonders.
>> If you don't want to use the Donate button, you can make a donation
>> directly here:
>> 2 Reception at no. 11 Downing Street, and using our logo
>> I have been invited to attend a reception for In historians at no. 11
>> Downing Street. It is possible that several big-name historians will sign
>> up to our statement, and I hope the site, in the course of this event. I
>> have been asked if I mind our logo being used for the occasion, to which
>> media will be invited (how much notice they take, of course, cannot be
>> I personally don't mind. But I don't consider the logo to be my personal
>> property and if there were an outcry among the supporters - you - against
>> it being shown in what some might regard as the foe's lair, then I would
>> think again. My view, however, is that this will be a cross-party event and
>> it will be a unique opportunity to gain visibility and to tell the media
>> loud and clear that the great majority of the profession is in favour of In.
>> I shall therefore take silence for consent. If I don't hear substantial
>> protests before 1900 Thursday 19 May, UK time, I shall assume you are OK
>> with this and go ahead.
>> 3 Students and young people
>> Forgive me for plugging this again, if you signed up a while ago, but as
>> you probably know, the result of this referendum may well turn on whether
>> young people register and turn out to vote. See, for example,
>> Few things in this contest are more important. With that in mind, do see
>> the 'mobilising students' notes attached [below].
>> 4 Classicists - and others?
>> As you may know, I have grandiose ambitions to turn this site into
>> Academics for Britain in Europe. This may not work in time; but we have a
>> group of classicists waiting to go, so the site may morph to Academics, but
>> keeping Historians as the biggest section, in the next few days. I shall
>> keep you posted. And if any of you have colleagues in other disciplines who
>> are keen to join and lead a small or large cohort from their discipline in,
>> now is the time to suggest it!
>> All good wishes and thanks again for your support
>> Andrew Knapp
>> Mobilising students
>> Students are expected to vote in a ratio of about two or three for In to
>> one Outer.
>> But the problem is turnout. According to the Economist of 7 May 2016 (and
>> this is hardly a contested view), older voters are stronger for Out and
>> more likely to vote. Overall turnout of below 60% will almost certainly
>> secure a victory for Out; above it and we will probably stay In.
>> So student 'apathy' - or at least, the pressing concerns of examinations,
>> finding a summer job or a permanent one, and moving house, which all crowd
>> in on student life at about this time - are our enemies. There is no magic
>> bullet to beat them.
>> Universities UK is strongly pro-In (see
>> http://www.universitiesuk.ac.uk/Pages/default.aspx - Universities for
>> Europe is bottom left)
>> and so is the NUS (
>> and so is this group of academics
>> and this one from Royal Holloway http://theorbital.co.uk/14596-2/
>> Universities themselves, though may be much more concerned to be
>> 'impartial'. At Reading, this is true both of the Students' Union and of
>> the University itself. It means no leafleting on campus (though I managed
>> to do some last term) and no official In event allowed without an Out
>> speaker, either at the same event or a subsequent one. Different
>> universities may have different positions on this, but my impression is
>> that Reading is not exceptional here.
>> So if you are keen to mobilise students, you can either encourage them to
>> vote In as the two groups above have done, or just tell them to be sure to
>> vote, and hope that the three-to-one ratio will deliver the result. Which
>> you choose will depend on your relations with your students, on your
>> university's position on the matter, and on what is already being done.
>> Registering to vote, and postal votes
>> Impartiality does not exclude encouraging students to get on the register
>> and to vote. At Reading, both the University and the students' union are
>> doing this.
>> A good thing to do would be to find out what is currently being done at
>> your university. If the answer is nothing, then try to get the University
>> authorities and the students' union to encourage voting. They should be
>> crucial allies if they will play, because they have the longest mailing
>> lists. If that doesn't work, or even if it does, use your student lists,
>> tweets, and any other means to hand, to underline the importance of voting.
>> And e-mail colleagues in all subjects and tell them to do the same.
>> With that in mind, use the sites below.
>> Registering to vote, and postal votes - contd.
>> To vote at the referendum you have to register by 7 June. The online form
>> is here
>> this one, interestingly, gives the government's pro-EU line under an
>> official stamp
>> and this one gives details on postal voting (applications must reach the
>> local electoral registration office by 5PM on 8 June - and the lead time
>> must be taken into account, so early steps should be taken):
>> Encouraging an In vote
>> Probably the best way in to this is via individual students whom you
>> know, or via your own mailing lists. It is a matter of judgement how well
>> you think students will respond. But here, for what it is worth, are a few
>> good sites.
>> http://studentsforeurope.org/ is the obvious one for students wishing to
>> get involved;
>> (you need to get past the initial letter to the posters - they are
>> (a good 7-point condensed argument)
>> and a couple of others https://www.donteuleave.com/ and
>> More officially, we have
>> http://www.strongerin.co.uk/ (the main Stronger In website)
>> http://www.britishinfluence.org/ (British Influence - right of centre
>> but good newletter you can sign up to)
>> Depending on your political preference, you may like Labour In
>> or the Lib Dems
>> or the Tories
>> or the Greens
>> https://www.greenparty.org.uk/europe .... (but curiously enough, there
>> is no equivalent UKIP site...).