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Re: FW: from Elidius on Ennor

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Lawrence Upton <[log in to unmask]>

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Poetryetc: poetry and poetics

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Thu, 13 Aug 2015 10:24:45 +0100

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Patrick

I like to collect potential group names though persuading fellow performers
to use them can be difficult. A year or so ago I performed as a member of
The Cooperative Strawberries. Hermit Heavies is a good name for a group.
Thank you.

I may have more information on this side of Elidus; if that proves so then
I shall let you know soonest after I hear

L

On 12 August 2015 at 19:39, Patrick McManus <[log in to unmask]>
wrote:

> Cheers He probably won't do you much harm!! Thanks I am reassured -but he
> mentioned some other hermit heavies
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Poetryetc: poetry and poetics [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
> Behalf Of Lawrence Upton
> Sent: 12 August 2015 18:21
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: FW: from Elidius on Ennor
>
> No
> I just found this
> Who was St Elidyr?
> The truth is, we don't know. The name may refer to St Elidur de Stackpole
> who accompanied Archbishop Baldwin ion his 12th century crusade through
> Wales. Or he might be a 12th century pilgrim known as Elidyr the Courteous.
> Or the name might just be the result of a clerical error and refer to St
> Teilo, also known as Eluid.
> I was in that part a few weeks ago. Clambered over a few Celtic remains
> etc.
> Don't worry about Elid. He'd like to damage you, for sure; but he hasn't
> got the courage. Truth is he's cross with me because I want to suggest he
> got off with Saint Theona and she didnt live at the same time. Perhaps.
> Maybe. He's all mouth. Not... not in that sense. He proaly won't do you
> much harm
>
> L
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> On 12 August 2015 at 18:04, Patrick McManus <[log in to unmask]
> >
> wrote:
>
> > Ps is he related to Saint Elidyr -church in Amroth???
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Patrick McManus [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> > Sent: 12 August 2015 18:01
> > To: 'Poetryetc: poetry and poetics'
> > Subject: RE: from Elidius on Ennor
> >
> > Lawrence bloody hell! -I had Elidus on the phone he said for you write
> > some more or else  -he was a bit pushy almost threatening -anyway I
> > have passed the message on -so I am off the hook-you had better find
> > that walled compound Cheers P eustatically
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Poetryetc: poetry and poetics [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> > On Behalf Of Lawrence Upton
> > Sent: 12 August 2015 12:36
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: from Elidius on Ennor
> >
> > Thank you.
> > I can't take credit for the feast day. I don't know who does that.
> > Part timers at Vehicle Registration maybe.
> > I believe (?) that it was reinstituted relatively recently after a
> > lurk of some centuries but am surprised to realise I do not know how
> > one checks the history of such things. Not easily.
> > I had a quick google on the subject of Elid, which I haven't done for
> > ages, and found much waffle, usually saying he lived on St Helen's. He
> > may have lived on what is now St Helen's; but like most of the now
> > islands it is recent, formed by eustatic rise. It would have been he
> > NW of the main island then Sure you wanted to know that.
> > I celebrated by writing him. I don't especially want to be on Scilly
> > in August, not without a walled compound.
> > I'm not quite sure when this was written, but recently. Last few days.
> > BBC Radio blasted me with the opening of Mahler's Fifth, loud trumpets
> > you know - it was only brief: someone won a doughnut or something for
> > recognising it - but by then I was full of Stanley Spencer thoughts,
> > chucking back of green sward sheets and leaping around the graveyard
> > in a glorified body. It occurred to me that those who had sinned might
> > be less happy without being told, like Adam and Eve hiding in the bushes.
> > This much is programmed into me by lay bros; but after more than half
> > a century of saying shan't, like the cook in Alice, I sought salvation
> > in an internal declaration that I was writing an Elid poem.
> > Not an entirely happy process, But when I left E to finish it for me
> > in his own words I think he gave a sense that he's not entirely at
> > peace with such concepts either.
> > Anyway, thanks for writing and seemingly getting something out of it.
> > I may have finished my lurk -  is it the first in a decade? First in a
> > long time.
> > I have been writing WHAAT on my favourite wall. Probably back now
> >
> > L
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> > On 12 August 2015 at 11:54, Patrick McManus
> > <[log in to unmask]
> > >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Well if he did not exist you have created him and a feast day too
> > > -how did you celebrate? Cheers P who may or may not exist-I am
> > > watching out for that loud music
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Poetryetc: poetry and poetics
> > > [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Lawrence Upton
> > > Sent: 12 August 2015 11:15
> > > To: [log in to unmask]
> > > Subject: from Elidius on Ennor
> > >
> > > From *Elidius on Ennor*
> > >
> > >
> > > When loud music from Heaven ends mere time, each here might know how
> > > well we have behaved in the mind of God. I hope, just then, to feel
> > > a growing joy; yet, in my mortal gut, I have little but dread that I
> > > shall start in and throughout my emotions, to die as I perceive the
> > > first notes of the sound:
> > > that condemnatory melody in Love
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [Elidius is one of the names of one who may have lived at some time
> > > after the Roman period on Scilly, or, as it then seems to have been
> > > called, Ennor. There is no evidence of him apart from the earlier
> > > name of St Helen's island, where it is said he may have been buried,
> > > Insula Sancti Elidii. His feast day is 8th August. Until now he has
> > > had no
> > hagiographer.
> > > ]
> > >
> >
>

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