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Re: LIS-TALIS-ASPIRE Digest - 17 Jun 2015 to 18 Jun 2015 (#2015-56)

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Hi 
Here at Manchester we're also beginning to review our stakeholder requirements, looking to provide evidence-based recommendations regarding reading lists as part of our wider recommended reading project Books Right Here Right Now (http://blog.brhrn.library.manchester.ac.uk/). We've spent the last year in consultation with our academics around the identification and provision of core texts (including e-book pilots challenging the traditional delivery and purchasing models for core texts), and are now moving on to look at areas such as analysing reading list terminology in order to potentially introduce standardisation,  as part of a reading strategy. 

Having already explored students reading behaviour and preferences via various pieces of market research at Manchester, we are just beginning a set of interviews with our academics to explore their workflows in association with recommended reading, and plan to survey all staff in October.

We'd be really interested in talking with others going through the same process, with the potential to share any data and findings.
Best wishes,
Olivia.

Olivia Walsby l Academic Engagement Librarian I The University of Manchester Library l
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From: Talis Aspire Users [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of kcl - readinglist
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Subject: Re: LIS-TALIS-ASPIRE Digest - 17 Jun 2015 to 18 Jun 2015 (#2015-56)

Heya
We've been discussing this issue among ourselves for a while now. Our current stance is that we don't want to be too prescriptive so we don't stop academics from having long lists as it isn't our job to tell teachers how to teach (or at least we shouldn't enforce our pedagogic ideas). 

However, what we have been doing is promoting what we think makes a 'good' list. We copied Charlie in Edinburgh's idea of an example list and we've put up all of the research we can find on reading lists there and on our guidance webpages. In our user guide we cover what we think a good list would be, drawing a distinction between a reading list and a complete bibliography. One thing we came up with was to suggest that anyone who wants to give their students the latter still put make a shorter list with key readings but add the full bibliography to the end using the 'add a page' function on Talis.

The key idea we're promoting is that academics should think of their reading lists as a greatest hits not an exhaustive back catalogue (cheesy lines for the win). 

We'll also be covering this in a presentation we're giving at the university's internal teaching excellence conference next week.

That said - the uber long lists are a minority. We discussed restricting purchasing and digitisations on them but came to the conclusion there weren't that many so we'd just roll with it.

I think a google doc gathering data could be really useful - I've been looking at the literature myself and while there are some gems it is quite thin on the ground. The Loughborough article was very useful though and although it was older Thompson, Mahon and Thomas' 'reading lists - how do you eat yours' was useful too.

Best,
Mia

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Subject: Re: LIS-TALIS-ASPIRE Digest - 17 Jun 2015 to 18 Jun 2015 (#2015-56)

Hi Everyone,

I must admit I hate setting rules regarding length of lists, structure and what type of list a library should accept.  Each subject discipline and lecturer teachers differently.  Saying that I would say that entering into discussions with academics about the role of their list and how they would like the students to use the list to enhance their learning is always a good idea.  It helps them focus on what they are trying to achieve and you can help them think of different ways of approaching it.  It can also help make the librarys life easier.

At NTU we are slowly undertaking a project reviewing how resource lists are used by staff, students and the library.  We are also going to benchmark ourselves against other institutions that have Talis Aspire.  We are going to look at staff & students attitudes and behaviours towards resource lists, how we can enhance our workflows and advocacy and training.

As part of this I am reading the literature this very morning and I have found the article by Gary Brewerton thoughtful and helpful - Implications of student and lecturer qualitative views on reading lists: a case study at Loughborough University in New Review of Aacdemic Librarianship, 2014.  I've several more articles to read, so I bet there will be lots more helpful ideas.

I would be delighted to join in discussions and share information about what we learn.  Being cheeky, could we garner data from the community via a google form or something similar about what people do about this and advocacy.  As you can see this is a topic that is at the top of my mind at the moment.
Ruth
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Date:    Thu, 18 Jun 2015 09:38:31 +0000
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Subject: Re: LIS-TALIS-ASPIRE Digest - 31 May 2015 to 1 Jun 2015 (#2015-48)

Hi Sian

Very interesting you raised this topic as we are also looking at this issue.  We have some lists with over 1,000 items on and until now have just entered lists as given.

However we realise this is just becoming unstainable and so are starting to enter discussions with the academics about these and to question the usefulness of such lists.

We suspect that often these types of lists are simply a rehash of PhD bibliographies etc. and that the academics believe they are giving their students a "compete" list of all that is available on the topic.  Whilst for say 3rd year and masters modules this has some validity we question the use of this method in 1st and 2nd year modules and so are now going to start trying to negotiate for a more focused list.

Would be happy to chat off list about this as we embark on a similar process?

Sue


Sue Abbott
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Date:    Mon, 1 Jun 2015 13:42:00 +0000
From:    "Sian Blake (LIB)" <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Entering long reading lists

Dear all,

I'm looking for some ideas about how other institutions have handled particularly long reading lists (e.g. more than 200 items) especially those of you who have entered the lists into Talis in house using library or temp staff. Did you just enter the lists as they stood or did you negotiate with the academics at all? Or perhaps you had a cut off figure, or only entered weekly reading and not general subject bibliographies? Did you base your decision only on staff time, or did you consider acquisitions / reporting processes as well?

We've received some very long lists with little structure in them and there is some concern that it would take entirely too much time to enter these. I'd really like to hear about how others have managed this issue!

Many thanks,

Sian


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