Just saw a Facebook friend (NYC area, early 30s) use "this prego" to refer to herself. I'd like to know if y'all Australians can do that!
> On 8 May 2015, at 04:21, Adam Schembri <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> Miriam & Claire,
> Yes, I’ve had ‘preggo’ confirmed by my (younger) Melbourne colleagues. I’d
> never heard it before I lived here, but then again I’d never heard the
> delightful ’Sydders’ for Sydney until I moved to Melbourne either (or
> ‘Melbz’).
> At least one online source I’ve found notes the two meanings for ‘garbo’
> too: http://www.slang-dictionary.org/Australian-Slang/Garbo
> Cheers,
>
> Schembers.
>
>> On 8/05/2015 13:12, "Miriam Meyerhoff" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>
>> You may be showing your age, or your remoteness from Australian English
>> these days.
>>
>> Try googling “preggo aussie english” but maybe not on your work computer.
>>
>> chrz, mm
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On 8/05/2015, at 11:42, Claire Bowern <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Not for this Aussie. Garbo is only the person (short for garbologist :)
>>> )
>>>
>>> Prego sounds made up to me, I would day preggers.
>>> Claire
>>>
>>> On Thu, May 07, 2015 at 5:49 PM, Adam Schembri
>>> <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Greg,
>>> Actually, ‘garbo’ can mean ‘garbage collector’ or ‘garbage bin’ (e.g.,
>>> ‘the journo on compo hurt himself taking out the garbo’ = the journalist
>>> on worker’s compensation hurt himself taking out the garbage).
>>> Adam
>>>
>>> From: Uri Horesh <[log in to unmask]>
>>> Date: Friday, 8 May 2015 06:08
>>> To: Variationist List <[log in to unmask]>
>>> Subject: Re: Court says Skyp-ie, Skyp-o is Aussie
>>>
>>> American students regularly refer to “organic chemistry” as “orgo” in
>>> their speech (usually not very favorably), and you see “convo” for
>>> “conversation” in Internet Written English, but I’m not sure how common
>>> it is in any spoken variety of English.
>>>
>>> My 2¢,
>>> Uri
>>>
>>> From: Peter Trudgill <[log in to unmask]>
>>> Date: Thursday, May 7, 2015 at 15:01
>>> To: "[log in to unmask]" <[log in to unmask]>
>>> Subject: Re: Court says Skyp-ie, Skyp-o is Aussie
>>>
>>> “Uni" is a relatively recent arrival (from Oz?) in GB - no one said it
>>> 20 years ago.
>>>
>>> The -o ending is certainly much more common in Oz than here, and but it
>>> is common enough in naming in Britain, or at least in England, whence it
>>> surely came. When I was at school, there were boys who were known as,
>>> e.g., Johnno, Fatso, Arbo [Herbert] - so I think “more widely taken up”
>>> is right.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 7 May 2015, at 19:49, Gregory R Guy <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>
>>> And let's not forget Aussie 'garbo', for garbageman.
>>>
>>> Greg
>>>
>>> On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 10:29 AM, Patrick, Peter L
>>> <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>> I should’ve said, I do find the productive chopping-plus–o items sound
>>> distinctive to my ear and are mostly not used much in the UK as far as I
>>> can tell.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> That means things like “reffo” etc, where there is no way to derive the
>>> –o just by reduction, mostly sound Australian to me.
>>>
>>> “Demo”, which is a simple reduction, I find much less convincing – it’s
>>> certainly common in the UK and could happen anywhere, just happens to
>>> end in –o.
>>>
>>> Simple choppings like “perv” and “uni” are also common here and I doubt
>>> they are imported as there’s no need – though you might import
>>>
>>> things that have something culturally distinct or attractive, it’s
>>> probably not possible to show that workaday choppings aren’t locally
>>>
>>> generated, and finding them first in print somewhere doesn’t seem esp
>>> convincing as to origin if the full wordform is ubiquitous.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> “Muso” fits the chopping-plus–o pattern, yet apparently has been in
>>> wide use here since early 1970s at least (days of Yes, Genesis etc) – if
>>> that is true,
>>>
>>> then maybe there is a productive –o process in the UK as well and it
>>> has simply been more widely taken up in Oz. Then each –o item would have
>>> to be
>>>
>>> assessed on its own legs, not just being likely to be Aussie because it
>>> is an –o item.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The –ie endings are extremely common in the UK, though, and don’t seem
>>> imported. Granted, some things they are applied to are not common – hence
>>>
>>> “barbie, surfie” – but that is not a function of the process itself.
>>> You could claim “barbie” to be Australian, but it wouldn’t advance the
>>> cause of any other –ie words,
>>>
>>> which would need their own case made item by item. Among other things,
>>> -ie is obsessively applied by football players to each other’s names
>>>
>>> whenever possible as a marker of vernacular solidarity for those on the
>>> UK scene; it’s probably easier & more fun to formulate when it can NOT
>>> be used than when it can.
>>>
>>> (There’s a new column for you, Peter T! if you run out of subjects…)
>>> (So “Giggsy” “Smitty” etc ad nauseam, but not “Messi-ie” or “Rooney-ie”,
>>> obviously, or anything to do
>>>
>>> w/Cristiano Ronaldo because nobody can stand him; the other option is
>>> adding “-s/-z” as “Becks”, “Lamps”, “-zie” as in “Sears-y”, “Babb-sy”,
>>> or less commonly radical
>>>
>>> chopping plus “-za”, as in “Gazza” “Wazza” and probably by now
>>> “Hazza”. This stuff even happens to some not-very-Anglo-looking names
>>> but only if ensconced on UK football scene.)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> This vernacular/solidarity meaning, though common for diminutives as
>>> noted, runs directly against the cultural logic that I speculated was
>>> behind this over-Ozzing of the pudding.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -p-
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Variationist List [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of
>>> Gregory R Guy
>>> Sent: 06 May 2015 16:14
>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>> Subject: Re: Court says Skype's name is too similar to Sky's
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Well, as an American who lived in Oz for five years, I find a lot of
>>> these examples to be quite convincing. Granted I have little UK
>>> experience, but the super-productive use of -ie and -o suffixes really
>>> caught my ear: Aussie, barbie, sunnie, surfie (viz. USA surfer), refo,
>>> arvo, etc. The point, as I saw it, of such affixes was not
>>> 'informality' but in most cases shortening.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Greg
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 7:02 AM, Adam Schembri
>>> <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Well, while we’re on the topic of the BBC website, Dave, I don’t really
>>> buy this:
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.test.bbc.com/culture/story/20150427-pervs-greenies-and-ratbags
>>>
>>> As an Australian who lived in London for nearly five years, it’s quite
>>> clear where we Australians got ‘mate’ and ‘bloody’ from. I don’t buy
>>> that
>>> some of the others are Australian: ‘selfie’ may have first been recorded
>>> in Australia, but I suspect it was created independently in multiple
>>> parts
>>> of the English speaking world.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Adam
>>>
>>>
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>>>> On 6/05/2015 20:41, "Dave Sayers" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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>>>> I thought this might tickle VAR-Lers:
>>>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-32593735
>>>>
>>>> Dave
>>>>
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>>>> Honorary Research Fellow, Arts & Humanities, Swansea University
>>>> (2009-2015)
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