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Re: Elidius on Ennor

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Lawrence Upton <[log in to unmask]>

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Poetryetc: poetry and poetics

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Thu, 30 Apr 2015 12:20:24 +0100

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Thanks.
I suppose you're right. I hadn't actually thought of it as adding character
details; but yes.
I'm not sure how much self-awareness is indicated by his observation that
he throws too many stones. It may not go much further than a pet yelled
thinking "bugger, I must try to remember not to get on the table"
In terms of metaphorical stones, he is - for him - provoked. I imagine the
suspicion there would have been.
Years ago, when there was still a Punch magazine, Punch carried a cartoon
of 3 people - 2 whites, scowling; and 1 black, smiling, but apart from the
whites. The whites watch the black.
First white: What's 'im?
Second white: 'e's a immigrant
First white: 'eave 'alf a brick at 'im
Part of me tends to feel like elidius as I write, unpleasant as that is - a
lite version of Harry Potter and Voldemort. I remember my main concern was
to work in some of his writing / composed imagery -- I tried writing a
diary (ish) thing and it didn' really work
I appreciate your comments
oh yes, just to say the system seems to have fractured my line spacing but
I think it remains readable

L









On 29 April 2015 at 15:33, Douglas Barbour <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> More of the character here, L, & fitting.
>
> 'He throws too many stones here' sort of sums him up, in all the poems, so
> far. That got a grin, in the midst.
>
> I like the way the thinking advances here...
>
> Doug
> On Apr 28, 2015, at 9:47 AM, Lawrence Upton <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
>
> > He forms hypotheses about himself
> >
> > as one might lift a stone, standing weighing
> > in the hand; and then tossing it; measuring.
> >
> > He throws too many stones here. The farmers
> >
> > and the fishermen shout at him, declaring
> >
> > that he is mad, tonguing their animal snarls.
> >
> >
> >
> > The ideas pass, his poor mind a streaming.
> >
> > This aim to hold on to configurations!
> >
> > the gathering, of souls, of seeds, of rules,
> >
> >
> >
> > of single instants, bothers him. He fears
> >
> > that he tries to hold on to what cannot
> >
> > ever be encompassed for retention.
> >
> >
> >
> > He'd make a world enough for husbandry,
> >
> > recognising but not greatly studying
> >
> > the quick seasons of his own sympathy:
> >
> >
> >
> > "all my bright ones operate darkness", he writes,
> >
> > "unity of body and of soul" - "healing
> >
> > through water and rock" - "love lust or sin monsters" -
> >
> >
> >
> > "the whirlwind is synonymous with God
> >
> > a being within a larger nature
> > which is in full possession without self".
> >
> >
> >
> > [Elidius is one of the names of one who may have lived at some time after
> > the Roman period on Scilly, or, as it then seems to have been called,
> > Ennor. There is no evidence of him apart from the earlier name of St
> > Helen's island, where it is said he may have been buried, Insula Sancti
> > Elidii. His feast day is 8th August. Until now he has had no
> hagiographer. ]
>
> Douglas Barbour
> [log in to unmask]
>
> Recent publications: (With Sheila E Murphy) Continuations & Continuation 2
> (UofAPress).
> Recording Dates (Rubicon Press).
>
> There is no life that does not rise
> melodic from scales of the marvelous.
>
> To which our grief refers.
>
>               Robert Duncan.
>

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