Ken,
What proof do you have that these conferences you say are fake are indeed
fake?
Are you saying that any conference that is run for profit is fake by your
definition?
Many universities in emerging economies rely on the income from conferences
to provide the education opportunities to their aspirational students.
Just because you suck up lots of taxpayers funds in Australia for your
overseas jollies, it does not mean others have such luxuries. What you are
doing probably amounts to malicious falsehood, and if a UK conference were
affected, you could be prosecuted under the Communications Act 2003 for
sending a message you know is false.
Jonathan Bishop
On Tuesday, 17 March 2015, Ken Friedman <[log in to unmask]>
wrote:
> Jonathan,
>
> If you review my comments on conferences, I have been clear to distinguish
> between different kinds of conferences. I support not-for-profit
> conferences sponsored by learned societies, professional organisations, and
> universities. I have been critical of profit-making conferences hosted by
> profit-making conference organisations that exist to earn money from
> researchers and scholars too new in the research field to recognise the
> difference among kinds of conferences.
>
> I support all serious research conferences and all serious journals. These
> are not “competitors” as you put it, but colleagues. We are all competing
> for interesting papers and good articles by first-rate presenters and
> excellent authors, but we are not “competing” in a profit-making
> market-place.
>
> The La Clusaz Conference on Doctoral Education in Design was sponsored by
> the Design Research Society. It was the second in a series of conferences
> that began in Columbus, Ohio, and went on later to Tsukuba, Japan. The
> conference was also sponsored by the Norwegian School of Management, (now
> the Norwegian Business School) a not-for-profit business school that
> currently ranks 38 in the Financial Times listing of European business
> schools. DRS and NSM subsidised the conference extensively. The consulting
> firm ICS of Switzerland and Norway provided conference support services at
> no charge, while helping us to secure five-star conference facilities and
> dining at an extraordinarily low cost. This was not a for-profit
> conference. It was a research conference, and the conference organisers
> raised a massive amount of funding that we spent to reduce conference costs
> for all participants, including full scholarships for PhD students.
>
> David Durling — co-editor of the proceedings — and Keith Russell
> established this list following the Columbus conference. It was quiet for a
> couple years, but it took off following the La Clusaz conference. As Klaus
> Krippendorff notes, many list subscribers were participants at La Clusaz.
>
> If you look at the list of authors in the proceedings, you will see the
> editors and board members of a dozen top journals from the leading research
> publishers, a good selection of deans and former deans, a large number of
> people who are now leading professors in the field, and many leading
> experts in the field of doctoral education.
>
> The proceedings has been out of print for many years. We have had many
> requests for copies that we could not meet. David Durling no longer has a
> paper copy, and neither do I. Following a long search, we located a copy,
> and with help from Heico Wesselius of Swinburne University of Technology
> and Gjoko Muratovski from Auckland University of Technology, we were able
> to get a clean, readable, copy-enabled .pdf. This effort took time, and the
> cost would have been significant if everyone had charged for the services
> they gave.
>
> I am using this list — and others — to inform people about a valuable
> resource. Like the conference, this is a not-for-profit research document,
> and we paid to produce it. We are not promoting it to make money, but to
> share the content.
>
> To summarise, I support all serious, not-for-profit research publications
> and conferences.
>
> My warnings involve profit-making ventures with no connection to learned
> societies, professional organisations, or universities. These conferences
> do not serve the field. This does not involve competition. It involves
> protecting research students and inexperienced researchers from predatory
> publishers and predatory conference organisers.
>
> Ken
>
> Ken Friedman, PhD, DSc (hc), FDRS | Editor-in-Chief | 设计 She Ji. The
> Journal of Design, Economics, and Innovation | Published by Elsevier in
> Cooperation with Tongji University Press | Launching in 2015
>
> Chair Professor of Design Innovation Studies | College of Design and
> Innovation | Tongji University | Shanghai, China ||| University
> Distinguished Professor | Centre for Design Innovation | Swinburne
> University of Technology | Melbourne, Australia
>
> —
>
> Jonathan Bishop wrote:
>
> —snip--
>
> Can you explain why you use this list to promote your conference
> proceedings, yet say that your competitors’ conferences are fake?
>
> —snip--
>
>
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