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Re: What Errors are Most Important to Distinguish

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Rhys Smith <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Wed, 4 Feb 2015 18:04:45 +0000

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Hi Sam,



First, a few questions - how would these error messages be signalled - 

inside the Reply-Message in the access reject? Would this be configured in 

the IdP - adding custom text to the Reply Message based on what happened? 

Would people have to add this config themselves (I.e. We provide stuff to 

copy and paste into their FR config), or we get it added to the FR 

distribution with the abfab stuff so they don’t have to?





Anyway, I agree with Alejandro’s points, caveat your responses. Those, 

with some of my own thoughts, leaves me with the following main non Trust 

Router related things:



* Successfully reached IdP and successfully authenticated, but the IdP 

will not authorise the user for that particular service so is access 

rejecting (is it possible to do that on the IdP?).



* Successfully reached IdP, but failed authentication (without going into 

detail why for security/privacy reasons)



* Couldn’t reach IdP - trust path exists but the AAA server didn’t respond



* Couldn’t reach IdP - no trust path could be found in this COI





And beyond that, yes, more detailed Trust Router errors would be good, 

such as TR down, expired credentials, etc.







Also agree with Alejandro about authorisation at the RP failing should 

bubble through somehow to the user, but that’s a different question 

entirely to this one I think.



Rhys.















On 04/02/2015 12:28, "Sam Hartman" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:



>Thanks this is exactly the sort of advice I was looking for and is very

>well reasoned.

>

>I have a couple of minor notes:

>

>

>Note that IDP not in the COI manifests as cannot reach IDP.

>No trust path will exist withing the context of that COI.

>

>The RP chooses the COI it wants to request in.  An RP that requests in a

>COI it's not a member of is going to have a disappointing existence.

>

>

>

>Also, I realize that I don't think the trust router protocol gives back

>a numeric result other than success and failure.  I don't know if we'll

>end up fixing that in this pass but it seems clear from your message

>that we do want to fix that.

>

>--Sam

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