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Re: Help: Mark of the Beast

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medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture



You might look in Rosemary Muir Wright, Art and Antichrist i9n Medieval 

Europe, Manchester UP, 1995. Pp.36-7 have remarks on Muhammad be4ing 

identified as a type of Antichrist (by Alvarus of Cordóba) and a ninth 

century life of the4 Prophet uses the alleged death date of 666 as a 

sign that he was the Apocalyptic beast of Rev. 11.11.



Gordon Plumb



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medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and 

cultureAnother source on the Antichrist is the North African Liber 

Genealogicus in Mommsen's MGH Auctores Anitquissini, vol. 9 Chronica 

Minora Saec. IV. V. Vi. VII. In the various editions over time the 

identity of the Antichrist is changed. As Geiseric is approaching 

Carthage where the chronicle is written, he is the Antichrist. When he 

is occupying Carthage, the chronicle entry is changed. Perhaps some 

secondary literature on the Liber will be helpful but I don't have 

anything at hand.







On Sat, Nov 1, 2014 at 10:56 AM, Robert Kraft 

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medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and 

culture              OK. I could use some help from the      

medievalists and byzantinists -- or whomever. I'm trying to      

explore pre-reformation interpretations of the "mark of the beast"      

(the number 666, or the variant 616), from Revelation 13. In his      

classic study of "Antichrist" traditions, Bousset is content to      

accept the old historical identification of Nero, but many other      

identifications have been offered over the centuries (before much      

Protestant polemics pointed to the Papacy in various forms). There      

is some help from online searches (e.g. Wiki articles), especially      

on the early period and the spate of anti-Muslim applications, but      

I haven't yet found much on medieval (broadly speaking)      

commentators, especially those writing in Latin and Greek and      

Syriac. The works that I have seen on commentaries (e.g. Francis      

X. Gumerlock, Patristic      Commentaries on Revelation [online] "third 

through eighth      centuries") tend not to address the "666/616" 

problem directly. I      haven't yet checked the following:             



             E. Ann Matter, “The Apocalypse in        Early Medieval 

Exegesis,” and John Williams, “The Apocalypse        Commentary of 

Beatus of Liébana,” in Emmerson and McGinn, eds.,        The Apocalypse 

in the Middle Ages (Ithaca, NY: Cornell        University        Press, 

1993), 38-50, 217-33; Emmerson, Antichrist in the Middle        Ages    

     (Seattle: University of Washington Press, 1981); Bernard McGinn,    

     Visions of the End:        Apocalyptic Traditions in the Middle 

Ages, 2nd ed. (New York:        Columbia University Press, 1999).

             Am I missing anything obvious in the        secondary 

literature? I do have a list of "patristic" texts and        authors to 

check (e.g. I'm told that Hippolytus, Pseudo-Ephraem,        

Pseudo-Epiphanius, Isidore of Seville (d. 635), and Bede all        

interpreted Revelation 11-13 in        their writings about Antichrist, 

and that In the second half of        the sixth century        or in 

the seventh century, an anonymous author wrote De        monogramma 

[Roger Gryson, ed.        CCSL 107:146-57], an explanation of the 

number of the beast in        Revelation 13:18), but more such 

references would be welcome.        I'll be happy to share the results 

with anyone interested.

            Thanks.

            Bob Kraft, Emeritus UPenn





      On 10/29/2014 8:16 PM, George Ferzoco wrote:



           I used to say it regularly to the list, but perhaps I should 

do so again: if any of you is facing any difficulties with research, 

ask the rest of us; given our numbers and our expertise, I think it's 

likely that help is not far away.Thanks again, Al -- best wishes, 

George



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