Surely a lop-sided kind of syllogism? You'd expect some kind of equivalence 
in the second terms of the two propositions: 'drawing skills' and 
'doggerel' - but they are actually in opposition. The two usual meanings of 
doggerel are comic verse in traditional meter and (more usually) incompetent 
verse - neither of which fit the bill.

-----Original Message----- 
From: jim andrews
Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2014 6:27 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Poets who wish to renew poetry by destroying it need to learn 
how to write poetry in the first place.

It isn’t necessary for a visual artist to know how to draw anymore. nor is 
it necessary for a poet to know how to write doggerrel.

ja
http://vispo.com

> On Nov 8, 2014, at 6:13 PM, jesse <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> And you don’t have to be an “English major” to do it.  What’s interesting 
> to me is that it takes a whole lifetime to learn to do something well and 
> these people haven’t even begun to begin and still they abruptly want us 
> to throw up our hands and speak Venusian into 100000000 digicams, buy 
> counless expensive up-dates to our Google-glas and whatever else the 
> genuises at Apple and Google and Giggle tell us to buy to pipe our 
> air-chops and chirps and high and low kicking dance steps and slogans and 
> raps and taps into a numberless number of websites transformable into 
> hand-held devices and gps anchored free-floating cloud-infused, quantified 
> cyber crypto-enclosed, screwed (yes, in my opinion, ulimately) and 
> screwable into the body-modified 
> plug-it-right-into-the-middle-of-the-forehead-if-not-right-up-the-old-wazoo 
> surgical port to bring a stirring virtual experience of a 
> multi-dimensional internal state of any flavor you choose directly to the 
> frontal lobe nearest you, so that someone who cares nothing about any on 
> this—indeed looks down on most of the humanities as something like a hobby 
> for the less able kids from the wrong side of the tracks—becomes richer 
> than you’ll ever be, when a stub of pencil and a scrap of paper, workable 
> eyes and a thinking mind and a willingness to try and try again for a 
> life-time with no promises of success will serve just as well for mere 
> pennies to pounds.
>
> And where’s my brace of virtual happy faces when I need them?
>
> Well, you’ll just have to drill a hole in your head and hook up to the 
> main frame to see ‘em, I guess!
>
> Jess
>
>