Hi, Wendy Carruthers and I  recovered similar remains from West Heslerton, they were identified as possibly Carex sp.rhizomes  and interpreted as being from the burnt remains of turf walls as they were associated with Grubenhäuser. The report is still un-published but we produced a poster for theIWGP conference in 2001 at Shefield and some of our work was published by Hall and Huntley in the English Heritage RESEARCH DEPARTMENT REPORT SERIES no. 87-2007
 http://services.english-heritage.org.uk/ResearchReportsPdfs/087_2007WEB.pdf (page 99 on-wards)unfortunately we have no photos of the remains but there are line drawings that I produced for the poster.
Best wishes
Kath Hunter

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From: "Inés López López-Dóriga" <[log in to unmask]>
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Subject: Re: SV: Help with macro-remain ID.

Dear all,

What about Cyperus roots? I am particularly thinking of Cyperus fuscus, but
other species might be also similar. But I agree Equisetum could be worth
checking.

Best wishes,

Inés López-Dóriga

On 18 November 2014 12:10, Monckton, Angela <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

>  Dear All,
>
> I have also seen tubers like these, they have sometimes occurred with what
> I thought were tiller bases of smaller grasses and culm fragments.  These
> tubers seem to have roots growing from them and I thought they may be stem
> bases of larger grasses but I do not have any reference material to
> identify them.
>
> I thought they may be uprooted plant material used as kindling.
>
> Angela
>
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>  Dear all,
>
> I agree with Peter, Ficaria root bulbs should be even on the surface and
> show a cell pattern. Moreover their shape is well defined oval with two
> pointed ends or pear (club) shaped.
> These remains here have a lot of root branchings like buds.
> I also have seen such remains, but I can not either identify them.
> Once we have thought about the roots of horsetail - Equisetum, but never
> checked.
>
> All the best
> Stefanie
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> Am 18.11.2014 10:38, schrieb Henriksen, Peter Steen:
>
>  Dear Mia, Otto and Bas
>
>
>
> Thank´s for the suggestions, but I don´t think that it can be neither
> Arrhenatherum nor Ranunculus ficaria. The “tubers” has a lot of remains
> from roots on the surface, which neither of the two proposed species have.
>
>
>
> Peter Steen
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> Med venlig hilsen / Best regards
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> *Fra:* Brinkkemper, Otto [mailto:[log in to unmask]
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> *Sendt:* 18. november 2014 09:51
> *Til:* The archaeobotany mailing list; Henriksen, Peter Steen
> *Emne:* RE: Help with macro-remain ID.
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>
>
> Most probably Ficaria verna/Ranunculus ficaria. This species is often
> found in Neolithic and sometimes younger contexts in the Netherlands too.
> The roots are poisonous, but after roasting they become edible and often
> occur in association with other food plants, so likely also consumed.
>
>
>
> With best wishes,
>
>
>
> oTTo
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> *Van:* The archaeobotany mailing list [mailto:[log in to unmask]
> <[log in to unmask]>] *Namens *Henriksen, Peter Steen
> *Verzonden:* dinsdag 18 november 2014 8:53
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> *Onderwerp:* Help with macro-remain ID.
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>
> Dear all,
>
>
>
> In a Bronze Age plow layer from the northern part of Jutland in Denmark I
> have found thousands of these carbonized root parts. Does anyone have an
> idea of the species.
>
>
>
> Greetings
>
> Peter Steen
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Med venlig hilsen / Best regards
>
> Peter Steen Henriksen
> Museumsinspektør / Curator
>
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