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Re: Not such a delay - was Re: Tweet from Chris Brill (@ECUChrisB)

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John Conway <[log in to unmask]>

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Discussion list for disabled students and their support staff.

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Fri, 12 Sep 2014 14:17:20 +0000

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Yes this silly notion that they can afford to give away computers to students!   Especially when 20% of ours would qualify

Regards
John
(Sent from my iPhone)

On 12 Sep 2014, at 15:06, "Penny Andrews" <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:

Very few people seem to be - they all think universities are getting more money post-Browne rather than a lot less.

On Friday, September 12, 2014, John Conway <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
Are you aware of the real state of university finances????

Regards
John
(Sent from my iPhone)

> On 12 Sep 2014, at 12:34, "Simon Jarvis" <[log in to unmask]<javascript:;>> wrote:
>
> I think that HEIs charging students £9k a year to study could provide their students with a low cost entry level computer, so long as it was made clear that the students were responsible for its functionality (i.e. that IT Services depts. are not inundated with first years bringing them back because they'd got viruses).
>
> I'm very interested in how this £200 contribution cost will be administered....
>
> Simon Jarvis
> Head of Disability and Dyslexia Service
>
> Room FB 2.30
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Discussion list for disabled students and their support staff. [mailto:[log in to unmask]<javascript:;>] On Behalf Of Ian F.
> Sent: 12 September 2014 11:46
> To: [log in to unmask]<javascript:;>
> Subject: Not such a delay - was Re: Tweet from Chris Brill (@ECUChrisB)
>
> I think someone's got to get real data to challenge that (I think) faulty survey that found 97% of students already have some kind of computer, which I assume this is based on. Can't we get a proper yougov survey?
>
> In the meantime I suppose it's going to be means testing by the back door as students decide if it's worth it or are encouraged to seek bursaries etc if they can't afford to cover the excess. Or maybe suppliers will be able to come up with some kind of easy payments scheme to spread the cost ....
>
> I know some people out there are convinced every student can afford a computer but I do see many who have really struggled to pay for even a basic secondhand model when I meet them. These are often people who came as refugees with really complex problems e.g. PTSD, amputees etc.
>
> Regards
> Ian Francis
>
> PS I'm still hopeful this is the beginning of them attempting to kick these changes into the long grass, though.
>
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>> On 12/09/2014 11:34, John Conway wrote:
>> Yes not such a complete delay by a year as it sounds. More of a halfway house!!!
>>
>> Regards
>> John
>> (Sent from my iPhone)
>>
>>> On 12 Sep 2014, at 11:30, "Ian F." <[log in to unmask]<javascript:;>> wrote:
>>>
>>> oh hang on...
>>>
>>> "For the academic year 2015/16, we will continue to provide Disabled Students' Allowance funding to help with the additional cost of a computer and assistive software if needed solely because of the student's impairment. This will be subject to the student contributing the first £200 of the computer's cost - broadly equivalent to the cost of a basic computer.  For future academic years we will explore a bulk purchasing scheme for such computers to keep costs down.
>>> Additional items such as printers and consumables will not be automatically provided, with alternative provision in the form of university provided services such as printing services and books and journals in electronic format to be considered as alternatives. "
>>>
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>>>
>>>> On 12/09/2014 10:31, Deborah Gibberd wrote:
>>>>    *Chris Brill (@ECUChrisB <https://twitter.com/ecuchrisb?refsrc=email>)*
>>>> 12/09/2014 10:26
>>>> <https://twitter.com/ecuchrisb/status/510358786075541504?refsrc=email>
>>>> Greg Clark has made written ministerial statement postponing Disabled
>>>> Students Allowance (DSA) changes to 2016/2017 bit.ly/1qOR6lT<http://bit.ly/1qOR6lT>
>>>> <http://t.co/CVrJ6vV8uq>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This includes the link to the ministerial statement
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Deborah Gibberd
>>>> Inclusive Practice Manager
>>>> Student Services
>>>> University of Brighton
>>>>
>>>>
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