JiscMail Logo
Email discussion lists for the UK Education and Research communities

Help for CCP4BB Archives


CCP4BB Archives

CCP4BB Archives


CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK


View:

Message:

[

First

|

Previous

|

Next

|

Last

]

By Topic:

[

First

|

Previous

|

Next

|

Last

]

By Author:

[

First

|

Previous

|

Next

|

Last

]

Font:

Proportional Font

LISTSERV Archives

LISTSERV Archives

CCP4BB Home

CCP4BB Home

CCP4BB  August 2014

CCP4BB August 2014

Options

Subscribe or Unsubscribe

Subscribe or Unsubscribe

Log In

Log In

Get Password

Get Password

Subject:

Problems with HEC.cif parameters

From:

"Edward A. Berry" <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Edward A. Berry

Date:

Mon, 18 Aug 2014 19:55:02 -0400

Content-Type:

text/plain

Parts/Attachments:

Parts/Attachments

text/plain (305 lines)

(Don't know if this should go to developers or the list. Some users may have
more information, or be interested in the information.)
I'd like to point out what i believe to be errors in the HEC.cif file released with
CCP4 version 6.2 and later.

HEC is heme c which is regular heme as in hemoglobin (heme b) that has been
covalently linked to the protein by two cysteine SH groups adding across the
double bonds (CAx-CBx) in the two vinyl substituents.  Thus heme c by itself
does not exist, only in the structure of a protein. This may make problems
for programs autogenerating the parameters for the ligand.

The S atom becomes attached to CAx which thus becomes sp3. CBx also becomes sp3.
(x here is b or c to distinguish the vinyl groups on pyrrole rings b and c.
Link to atom names is: http://xray.bmc.uu.se/hicup/HEC/hec_chempdb.gif)

in -6.1.3 this is clear from the angles about CAx:
  HEC      C3B    CAB    CBB     109.000    3.000
  HEC      C3B    CAB    HAB     109.000    3.000
  HEC      HAB    CAB    CBB     109.000    3.000
and bonds:
  HEC      C3B    CAB       coval       1.544    0.020
  HEC      CAB    CBB       coval       1.544    0.020

in -6.4 this has become planar
  HEC      C3B    CAB    HAB     120.000    3.000
  HEC      C3B    CAB    CBB     120.000    3.000
  HEC      HAB    CAB    CBB     120.000    3.000
  HEC      CAB    C3B       double      1.483    0.020
  HEC      CBB    CAB       single      1.510    0.020

Another apparent discrepancy has to do with C-C bond lengths in the pyrrole rings of the porphyrin.
First, all rings should be the same. if you draw conjugated double bonds
as in the diagrams on the wikipedia heme page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heme
then three of the pyrrole rings have a double bond in the side apposite N,
while the third has a single.
HEC.cif in -6.1.3 (incorrecrly) reflected this pattern:
  HEC      C2A    C3A       coval       1.334    0.020
  HEC      C2B    C3B       coval       1.334    0.020
  HEC      C2C    C3C       coval       1.334    0.020
  HEC      C3D    C2D       coval       1.544    0.020
But the porphrin ring is 4-fold symmetric, presumably
a resonance hybrid of  structures with the single bond on different rings.
so the bond opposite N is 3 parts double to 1 part single in all 4 rings.
On the other hand the bonds from the N-adjacent carbons to the outer carbons
(C1x-C2x and C3x-C4x) are single in three of the rings and double in one ring
(in any one resonance structure) so 1 part double to 3 parts single.

The heme params we used to use with CNS/Xplor seem consistent with this 1/4 3/4 hybridization:
atomtype bond  explanation
FE - NP	1.96  (Fe-N)
NP -CPA	1.38  (N to inner C atoms)
CPA-CPB	1.44  (inner to outer C)
CPB-CPB	1.36  (between the outer C)
CPA-CPM	1.37 (CPM are the bridging carbons)

These are from toph19/param19.rcv which I see are available online at
http://www.msg.ucsf.edu/local/programs/xplor/tutorial.dir/toppar/toph19.rcv
http://www.msg.ucsf.edu/local/programs/xplor/tutorial.dir/toppar/param19.rcv
And these are apparently the parameters used by Huber's group in the
award-winning work on photosynthetic reaction center which contains c cytochromes.
The heme parameters are from Kuriyan's earlier work on MGb, 1MBC.pdb (1.5 A),
the parameters being from table 1 of
KITAGAWA, ABE AND OGOSHI J.C.P. 69, (1978) PAGES 4526-4534
which is from a small-mol structure of Ni-octaethyl porphyrin

ccp4-6.4 corrects the asymmetric porphyrin ring, but with all C-C bonds
in all pyrrole rings pegged at 1.490 A instead of 1.44, 1.36 as above.
There is an atomic-resolution structure of a cytochrome c (1C75, 0.95 A).
which contains a heme c (denoted HEM not HEC- HEC was introduced later,
originally for nmr structures). The C-C bonds in this structure support
the two different types used by kurriyan:
HEME C from 1C75         x= A       B       C      D
atomtype kuriyan bond
FE - NP	  1.958 FE-Nx     2.00     1.97    1.99    1.97
NP -CPA	  1.376 Nx-C1x    1.37     1.3?    1.40    1.38 \
                 Nx-C4x    1.37     1.38    1.37    1.35  |
CPA-CPB	  1.443 C1X-C2x   1.44     1.44    1.44    1.45  |ring
                 C4x-C3x   1.45     1,45    1.43    1.47  |
CPB-CPB	  1.346 C2x-C3x   1.36     1.36    1.34    1.35 /

Needless to say the current validation report for 1C75 shows very bad
ligand geometry, first because it uses HEM instead of HEC, second because
the bonds within the porphrin are different.

So should the C-C bonds be all equal, or fall in two classes?


================================================================
Included below are summaries of various parameters/measurements of
heme bond lengths on the off chance that someone might be interested.
Second column are the values from param19.rcv for the bond type
Columns labeled A, B, C, D are the actual values or parameters for atoms in that (ABCD) pyrrole ring.

================================================================
HEME C from 1C75         x= A       B       C      D
atomtype Kuriyan atoms
FE - NP	  1.958 FE-Nx     2.00     1.97    1.99    1.97
NP -CPA	  1.376 Nx-C1x    1.37     1.3?    1.40    1.38 \
                 Nx-C4x    1.37     1.38    1.37    1.35  |
CPA-CPB	  1.443 C1X-C2x   1.44     1.44    1.44    1.45  |ring
                 C4x-C3x   1.45     1,45    1.43    1.47  |
CPB-CPB	  1.346 C2x-C3x   1.36     1.36    1.34    1.35 /
CPA-CPM	  1.371 C1x-CHw   1.39     1.39    1.36    1.39 \bridge
                 C4x-CHy   1.38     1.38    1.38    1.40 /
methyl:
CPB-CH3E  1.52  C2x-CMx             1.50    1.51    1.49 \Methyl
                 C3x-CMx    1.49                          /
Vinyls:
CPB-CR1E  1.38* C3x-CAx             1.50    1.52         \Vinyl
CR1E-CH2E 1.52* CAx-CBx             1.55    1.56         /
               *OK for heme C, should be double for PP9
CPB-CH2E        C2x-CAx                             1.50 \
                 C3x-CAx    1.52                          |
CH2E-CH2E       CAx-CBx    1.55                     1.59 |propionate
CH2E-C          CBx-C      1.41                     1.41 |
                 CGx-O1x    1.25                     1.27 |
                 CGx-O2x    1.29                     1.26 |
C-O?            CGx-O1x    1.25                     1.27 |
                 CGx-O2x    1.29                     1.26 /
1C75 is 0.97 A!

================================================================
HEME from 1MBC           x= A        B       C         D
FE - NP	  1.958 FE-Nx     1.99     1.90    1.99   2.0
NP -CPA	  1.376 Nx-C1x    1.37     1.42    1.40   1.37
                 Nx-C4x    1.42     1.39    1.35   1.39
CPA-CPB	  1.443 C1X-C2x   1.49     1.42    1.40   1.52
                 C4x-C3x   1.51     1.47    1.47   1.42
CPB-CPB	  1.346 C2x-C3x   1.33     1.31    1.35   1.34
CPA-CPM	  1.371 C1x-CHw   1.35     1.40    1.33   1.36
                 C4x-CHy   1.45     1.38    1.40   1.41
methyl:
CPB-CH3E  1.52  C2x-CMx            1.57    1.55   1.56
                 C3x-CMx   1.55
Vinyls:
CPB-CR1E  1.38* C3x-CAx            1.52    1.59
CR1E-CH2E 1.52* CAx-CBx            1.37    1.31
              * it appears these two parameters have been switched!
CPB-CH2E         C2x-CAx  1.51                     1.54
                  C3x-CAx
CH2E-CH2E        CAx-CBx  1.55                     1.52
CH2E-C           CBx-CGx  1.51                     1.43
C-O?             CGx-O1x  1.28                     1.30
                  CGx-O2x  1.30                     1.21


================================================================
HEM.cif fr phenix-dev-1745 x= A      B      C       D
FE - NP	  1.958 FE-Nx     2.080    2.080  2.080   2.080
NP -CPA	  1.376 Nx-C1x    1.384    1.384  1.384   1.384
                 Nx-C4x    1.384    1.384  1.384   1.384
CPA-CPB	  1.443 C1X-C2x   1.449    1.449  1.449   1.449
                 C4x-C3x   1.449    1.449  1.449   1.449
CPB-CPB	  1.346 C2x-C3x   1.334    1.334  1.334   1.334*  was 1.544
CPA-CPM	  1.371 C1x-CHw   1.378    1.378  1.378   1.378
                 C4x-CHy   1.378    1.378  1.378   1.378
methyl:
CPB-CH3E  1.52  C2x-CMx            1.544  1.544   1.544
                 C3x-CMx   1.544
  Vinyls:
CPB-CR1E  1.38* C3x-CAx            1.544  1.544
CR1E-CH2E 1.52* CAx-CBx            1.337  1.337
  
CPB-CH2E         C2x-CAx  1.544
                  C3x-CAx                           1.544
CH2E-CH2E        CAx-CBx  1.525                    1.525
CH2E-C           CBx-CGx  1.506                    1.506
C-O?             CGx-O1x  1.258                    1.258
                  CGx-O2x  1.258                    1.258

$ diff /v1/sw/lnx/phenix-1.8.1-1168/chem_data/mon_lib/h/HEM.cif /v1/sw/lnx/phenix-dev-1745/chem_data/mon_lib/h/HEM.cif
244c244
<  HEM      C3D    C2D       coval       1.544    0.020
---
>  HEM      C3D    C2D       coval       1.334    0.020
[

================================================================
HEM.cif from ccp4 6.4.0   x= A      B       C       D    range
Ring:
FE - NP	  1.958 FE-Nx     1.977   2.093   2.088  1.845   1.845-2.093
NP -CPA	  1.376 Nx-C1x    1.378   1.334   1.377  1.333   1.333-1.378
                 Nx-C4x    1.377   1.335   1.377  1.335
CPA-CPB	  1.443 C1X-C2x   1.408   1.421   1.404  1.469   1.404-1.482
                 C4x-C3x   1.410   1.482   1.421  1.469
CPB-CPB	  1.346 C2x-C3x   1.359   1.365   1.384  1.352   1.352-1.384
CPA-CPM	  1.371 C1x-CHx   1.389   1.400   1.392  1.401   1.383-1.401
                 C4x-CHy   1.386   1.393   1.383  1.398
Methyls
CPB-CH3E  1.52  C2x-CMx           1.507   1.508  1.507   1.507-1.508
                 C3x-CMx   1.507
Vinyls:
CPB-CR1E  1.38* C3x-CAx           1.474   1.474          1.474
CR1E-CH2E 1.52* CAx-CBx           1.330   1.329          1.329-1.330
Propionates:
CPB-CH2E         C2x-CAx  1.506                          1.506
                  C3x-CAx                          1.506
CH2E-CH2E        CAx-CBx  1.530                   1.529  1.529-1.530
CH2E-C           CBx-CGx  1.506                   1.507  1.506-1.507
C-O?             CGx-O1x  1.251                   1.251  1.251
                  CGx-O2x  1.251                   1.251

================================================================
HEM from PDB          x= A      B     C    D
FE - NP	  1.958 FE-Nx   ----  1.95  1.95  1.95
NP -CPA	  1.376 Nx-C1x
                 Nx-C4x        1.38
CPA-CPB	  1.443 C1X-C2x 1.43  1.45  1.45
                 C4x-C3x 1.43  1.45  1.45  1.44
CPB-CPB	  1.346 C2x-C3x ----  1.45  1.45  1.43     C3C-C2C ideal is 1.45 in my report, 1.43 in 1c75 report
CPA-CPM	  1.371 C1x-CHw
                 C4x-CHy
  methyl:
CPB-CH3E  1.52  C2x-CMx ----  1.45   1.45  1.45
                 C3x-CMx
Vinyls:
CPB-CR1E  1.38* C3x-CAx ----  1.40   1.40
CR1E-CH2E 1.52* CAx-CBx

CPB-CH2E         C2x-CAx
                  C3x-CAx
CH2E-CH2E        CAx-CBx
CH2E-C           CBx-CGx
C-O?             CGx-O1x
                  CGx-O2x

================================================================
HEC from PDB          x= A     B      C     D
FE - NP	  1.958 FE-Nx   1.92  1.92  1.92  1.92
NP -CPA	  1.376 Nx-C1x
                 Nx-C4x       1.36
CPA-CPB	  1.443 C1X-C2x 1.42  1.43  1.43 1.43
                 C4x-C3x 1.42  1.42  1.42 1.43    HEC C3C-C4C 1.42
CPB-CPB	  1.346 C2x-C3x 1.37  1.42  1.40 1.37
CPA-CPM	  1.371 C1x-CHw 1.37  1.39  1.39 1.39
                 C4x-CHy 1.37  1.37       1.37          1.39
methyl:
CPB-CH3E  1.52  C2x-CMx
                 C3x-CMx
Vinyls:
CPB-CR1E  1.38* C3x-CAx  ----  1.34  1.34
CR1E-CH2E 1.52* CAx-CBx

CPB-CH2E         C2x-CAx
                  C3x-CAx
CH2E-CH2E        CAx-CBx
CH2E-C           CBx-CGx
C-O?             CGx-O1x
                  CGx-O2x

================================================================
HEC from ccp6.4        x= A        B      C      D
FE - NP	  1.958 FE-Nx   2.090   2.090   2.090  2.090
NP -CPA	  1.376 Nx-C1x  1.337   1.337   1.337  1.337
                 Nx-C4x  1.337   1.337   1.337  1.337
CPA-CPB	  1.443 C1X-C2x 1.490   1.490   1.490  1.490
                 C4x-C3x 1.490   1.490   1.490  1.490
CPB-CPB	  1.346 C2x-C3x 1.490   1.490   1.490  1.490  (1.334/1.544 in 6.1.3)
CPA-CPM	  1.371 C1x-CHw 1.483   1.483   1.483  1.483
                 C4x-CHy 1.483   1.483   1.483  1.483
methyl:
CPB-CH3E  1.52  C2x-CMx                 1.506  1.506
                 C3x-CMx 1.506   1.506
Vinyls:
CPB-CR1E  1.38* C3x-CAx         1.483   1.483      (1.544 in 6.1.3)
CR1E-CH2E 1.52* CAx-CBx         1.510   1.510      (1.544 in ")

CPB-CH2E         C2x-CAx 1.510                 1.510
                  C3x-CAx
CH2E-CH2E        CAx-CBx 1.524                 1.524
CH2E-C           CBx-CGx 1.510                 1.510
C-O?             CGx-O1x 1.250                 1.250
                  CGx-O2x 1.250                 1.250
  HEC      C3B    CAB    HAB     120.000    3.000
  HEC      C3B    CAB    CBB     120.000    3.000
  HEC      HAB    CAB    CBB     120.000    3.000
================================================================
HEC from Phenix-dev-1745    x= A        B       C         D
FE - NP	  1.958 FE-Nx      2.080     2.080   2.080   2.080
NP -CPA	  1.376 Nx-C1x     1.384     1.384   1.384   1.384
                 Nx-C4x     1.384     1.384   1.384   1.384
CPA-CPB	  1.443 C1X-C2x    1.449     1.449   1.449   1.449
                 C4x-C3x    1.449     1.449   1.449   1.449
CPB-CPB	  1.346 C2x-C3x    1.334     1.334   1.334   1.544
CPA-CPM	  1.371 C1x-CHw    1.378     1.378   1.378   1.378
                 C4x-CHy    1.378     1.378   1.378   1.378
methyl:
CPB-CH3E  1.52  C2x-CMx              1.544   1.544   1.544
                 C3x-CMx    1.544
Vinyls:
CPB-CR1E  1.38* C3x-CAx              1.544   1.544
CR1E-CH2E 1.52* CAx-CBx              1.544   1.544

CPB-CH2E         C2x-CAx   1.544
                  C3x-CAx                             1.544
CH2E-CH2E        CAx-CBx   1.525                     1.525
CH2E-C           CBx-CGx   1.506                     1.506
C-O?             CGx-O1x   1.258                     1.258
                  CGx-O2x   1.258                     1.258
  HEC      C3B    CAB    CBB     109.000    3.000
  HEC      C3B    CAB    HAB     109.000    3.000
  HEC      HAB    CAB    CBB     109.000    3.000

================================================================

Top of Message | Previous Page | Permalink

JiscMail Tools


RSS Feeds and Sharing


Advanced Options


Archives

May 2024
April 2024
March 2024
February 2024
January 2024
December 2023
November 2023
October 2023
September 2023
August 2023
July 2023
June 2023
May 2023
April 2023
March 2023
February 2023
January 2023
December 2022
November 2022
October 2022
September 2022
August 2022
July 2022
June 2022
May 2022
April 2022
March 2022
February 2022
January 2022
December 2021
November 2021
October 2021
September 2021
August 2021
July 2021
June 2021
May 2021
April 2021
March 2021
February 2021
January 2021
December 2020
November 2020
October 2020
September 2020
August 2020
July 2020
June 2020
May 2020
April 2020
March 2020
February 2020
January 2020
December 2019
November 2019
October 2019
September 2019
August 2019
July 2019
June 2019
May 2019
April 2019
March 2019
February 2019
January 2019
December 2018
November 2018
October 2018
September 2018
August 2018
July 2018
June 2018
May 2018
April 2018
March 2018
February 2018
January 2018
December 2017
November 2017
October 2017
September 2017
August 2017
July 2017
June 2017
May 2017
April 2017
March 2017
February 2017
January 2017
December 2016
November 2016
October 2016
September 2016
August 2016
July 2016
June 2016
May 2016
April 2016
March 2016
February 2016
January 2016
December 2015
November 2015
October 2015
September 2015
August 2015
July 2015
June 2015
May 2015
April 2015
March 2015
February 2015
January 2015
December 2014
November 2014
October 2014
September 2014
August 2014
July 2014
June 2014
May 2014
April 2014
March 2014
February 2014
January 2014
December 2013
November 2013
October 2013
September 2013
August 2013
July 2013
June 2013
May 2013
April 2013
March 2013
February 2013
January 2013
December 2012
November 2012
October 2012
September 2012
August 2012
July 2012
June 2012
May 2012
April 2012
March 2012
February 2012
January 2012
December 2011
November 2011
October 2011
September 2011
August 2011
July 2011
June 2011
May 2011
April 2011
March 2011
February 2011
January 2011
December 2010
November 2010
October 2010
September 2010
August 2010
July 2010
June 2010
May 2010
April 2010
March 2010
February 2010
January 2010
December 2009
November 2009
October 2009
September 2009
August 2009
July 2009
June 2009
May 2009
April 2009
March 2009
February 2009
January 2009
December 2008
November 2008
October 2008
September 2008
August 2008
July 2008
June 2008
May 2008
April 2008
March 2008
February 2008
January 2008
December 2007
November 2007
October 2007
September 2007
August 2007
July 2007
June 2007
May 2007
April 2007
March 2007
February 2007
January 2007


JiscMail is a Jisc service.

View our service policies at https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/policyandsecurity/ and Jisc's privacy policy at https://www.jisc.ac.uk/website/privacy-notice

For help and support help@jisc.ac.uk

Secured by F-Secure Anti-Virus CataList Email List Search Powered by the LISTSERV Email List Manager