Dear colleagues
There appears to be strongly held views on both side as to
whether my original posting was appropriate or not, thank
you for sharing them.
The Lancet has published a letter by Manduca et al and the
authors of the letter describe the health impact of the
conflict including on children and the vulnerable. They
are asking "colleagues, old and young professionals, to
denounce this Israeli aggression".
As a medical professional, I have shared this article with
this list-server whom I believe are fellow healthcare
professionals and/or scientists and who may be in a
position to influence and shape policies which impact
health (based on evidence based practice etc.)
To be precise my email stated "if you wish to read/
support" which I believe is different from "asking". If
you wish to read or ignore or support the published letter
then that is your decision.
I for one salute the Lancet and the authors for publishing
this letter in support of a population who does not have a
strong voice. As a long standing member of this
list-server community, I have also agreed to respect and
acknowledge that divergent views exist.
I wish you well and peace wherever you may be.
Nourieh
On Thu, 24 Jul 2014 12:09:24 +0100
Trish Groves <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> If you decide to formulate a policy on what's in scope
>and what isn't for
> this listserv, this might be a relevant resource:
>
> http://www.wame.org/about/policy-statements#Geopolitical
>Intrusion
>
> With responses from:
>
> The Council of Science Editors (CSE):
> http://www.councilscienceeditors.org/wp-content/uploads/v27n4p143a.pdf
>
> and Committee on Publication Ethics (COPE):
> http://publicationethics.org/news/clarification-cope-advice-editors-geopolitical-intrusions-editorial-decisions
>
> Best wishes
> Trish
>
>
>
>
> On 24 July 2014 11:57, Douglas Badenoch
><[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Martin
>>
>> I saw the message last night but decided to let it run.
>> I'd like to
>> congratulate the contributors so far in their measured
>>responses.
>>
>> Strictly speaking, with my list owner's hat on, you're
>>right about the
>> remit of the list. As list owner I've never been too
>>rigid about enforcing
>> the list remit to the letter. For one thing, it would
>>be too much work for
>> what is an unpaid role, and for another, it would stifle
>>the value of the
>> list itself.
>>
>> Personally, I feel that the original post was both
>>acceptable and morally
>> important. Here we have an ongoing public health
>>disaster and I do think
>> it is right for us to consider it. The causes of
>>avoidable harm are surely
>> central to any evidence-based health discussion.
>> Avoiding
>> "finger-pointing" in that context is a failure to
>>address that aetiology.
>> In my humble opinion of course!
>>
>> Clearly not everyone agrees with that, but equally
>>clearly some of our
>> members do.
>>
>> I think as long as we remain polite and respectful, and
>>mindful of the
>> purpose of the list, we can address this disastrous
>>situation in a way
>> that, at the very least, may remind those desperate
>>people whose lives are
>> being destroyed in this conflict that they are not
>>forgotten.
>>
>> Best regards
>>
>> Douglas
>>
>> Dawes, Martin wrote:
>>
>>> I think Douglas Badenoch who runs this list is not
>>>available to see this
>>> posting so I am taking the liberty of reminding people
>>>of the use of the
>>> list as posted on the JISC web site
>>>https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/
>>> cgi-bin/webadmin?A0=evidence-based-health
>>>
>>> /This list is for discussion of teaching, practice and
>>>implementation of
>>> EBH. /
>>> /
>>> /
>>>
>>> I would respectfully suggest that we close this
>>>discussion.
>>>
>>> Martin
>>> /
>>> /
>>>
>>> From: Mike Kronenfeld <[log in to unmask]
>>><mailto:[log in to unmask]
>>> >>
>>> Reply-To: Mike Kronenfeld <[log in to unmask] <mailto:
>>> [log in to unmask]>>
>>>
>>> Date: Wednesday, 23 July 2014 15:35
>>> To: "[log in to unmask] UK"
>>><EVIDENCE-BASED-HEALTH@
>>> JISCMAIL.AC.UK
>>><mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
>>>
>>> Subject: Fwd: An open letter for the people in Gaza, the
>>>Lancet
>>>
>>> I want to protest that this is an inappropriate use of
>>>this listserv
>>> which is not an appropriate place to have a discussion
>>>on what is currently
>>> happening in Gaza.
>>>
>>>
>>> Michael Kronenfeld
>>> University Librarian
>>> A.T. Still Memorial Library
>>> A.T. Still U. of the Health Sciences
>>> 5850 E. Still Circle
>>> Mesa, AZ 85206
>>> (480) 219-6091
>>>
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> From: *Nourieh Hoveyda* <[log in to unmask]
>>><mailto:
>>> [log in to unmask]>>
>>> Date: Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 3:18 PM
>>> Subject: An open letter for the people in Gaza, the
>>>Lancet
>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>><mailto:EVIDENCE-BASED-HEALTH@
>>> jiscmail.ac.uk>
>>>
>>>
>>> Dear colleagues
>>>
>>> An open letter for the people in Gaza, published in the
>>>Lancet 23rd of
>>> July 2014, By Paola Manduca, Iain Chalmers, Derek
>>>Summerfield, Mads
>>> Gilbert, Swee Ang, on behalf of 24 signatories
>>>
>>> If you wish to read / support the letter please see link
>>> http://www.thelancet.com/gaza-letter-2014
>>>
>>> Kind regards
>>> Nourieh
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Michael Kronenfeld
>>> University Librarian
>>> A.T. Still Memorial Library
>>> A.T. Still U. of the Health Sciences
>>> 5850 E. Still Circle
>>> Mesa, AZ 85206
>>> (480) 219-6091
>>> Http://www.atsu.edu/atsmlib
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>>>
>>
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