And the horde of the Mcmanii had some nice caves in the first ice age hidden
on Brixton Hill by the good ol river Effra (where the word F came from) we
used to wage wars with the Uptonnes Hordes a motley but jolly crew
-----Original Message-----
From: Poetryetc: poetry and poetics [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
Behalf Of Lawrence Upton
Sent: 12 June 2014 10:54
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: pat snap 630 !"!"!"
Do.
It's "always" been there. (They used to think the Romans founded London but
keep finding quite large structures from way back. TG is on a Roman road and
that, it's said, is what Tooting means via a lost item of the a-s vocab.
Graveney is a Norman family name, and the Normans still run the country.
There's a Graveney near Faversham in Kent (a one time major port)... that I
can only explain by reference to the creation of myself and a friend in
yoof, the Royal Society of Transportation of Towns, which builds duplicates
nationally and internationally as part of job creation.
There's a Streatham, where I used to live, next to TG, somewhere in East
Anglia I believe + of course London Ontario and Launcester in your own
sunburnt country etc et cetera
L
On 12 June 2014 07:27, Bill Wootton <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> I'll add Tooting Graveney to Wandle as another t'riffic name. L, P.
>
> B
>
> On 12/06/2014, at 1:19 AM, Lawrence Upton wrote:
>
> > He was, the sad creature. The Graveney is a tributary of the Wandle
> > and
> you
> > could see it about to go underground a mile or so south of my
> > parents
> house
> > in Tooting Graveney. That house had a coal cellar. In the winter it
> > was inches deep in water. There were something like 40 houses along
> > one side
> of
> > our road where there had been 4 in the days that Johnson went
> > sniffing after the scent of Mrs Thrale - you could spit at Thrale Rd
> > from where I was teenaged, and sometimes I did. Presumably the
> > forces of Edwardian capitalism decided there was no need to allow a
> > space to the ghost of a river.
> >
> > Anyway, dear boy, do show respect to our natural powers. Let's live
> > by British values.
> >
> > pip pip
> >
> > L
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 11 June 2014 16:13, Patrick McManus
> > <[log in to unmask]>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> William Morris was the man picked the Wandle and inspired -News
From
> >> Nowhere
> >> P
> >> Ps sorry L to offend your mighty river
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Poetryetc: poetry and poetics
> >> [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> On
> >> Behalf Of Lawrence Upton
> >> Sent: 11 June 2014 12:41
> >> To: [log in to unmask]
> >> Subject: Re: pat snap 630 !"!"!"
> >>
> >> Pat as a citizen once of and now near the Wandle I take issue with
> >> your description of its being piddling. Too much re and
> >> misdirection; but in
> its
> >> unaltered state it was a substantial Thames tributary and a major
> centre of
> >> early industrialisation
> >>
> >> L
> >>
> >>
> >> On 11 June 2014 12:35, Bill Wootton <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Pat, I laughed. Like the local content too. But you might consider
> >>> butting out one of your buts. Two buts throws readers out. Line 4
> >>> could simply begin, 'It was' for instance without disarming your flow.
> >>>
> >>> Bill
> >>>
> >>>> On 11 Jun 2014, at 6:39 pm, Patrick McManus <
> >>> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> RIVER
> >>>>
> >>>> I am not
> >>>> criticising
> >>>> she said
> >>>> but it was
> >>>> all very well
> >>>> naming our son
> >>>> Moses
> >>>> but isn't it
> >>>> a bit much
> >>>> to make a cradle
> >>>> to tar it
> >>>> to float it
> >>>> in the river
> >>>> after all
> >>>> the Wandle
> >>>> is hardly
> >>>> the Nile
> >>>> and as far
> >>>> as I know
> >>>> there are no
> >>>> Pharaoh's Daughters
> >>>> living in
> >>>> Earlsfield
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> pmcmanus
> >>>> r573
> >>>> some here will know this but
> >>>>
> >>>> River Wandle is a local piddling River Earlsfied -is a
> >>>> sub-suburbia nearby This inspired by partner suddenly taking up a
> >>>> writing course -subject
> >>> 'River
> >>>> Wandle'
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
> >
>
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