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Re: article which mis-understands internet art, again?

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Victoria Bradbury <[log in to unmask]>

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Victoria Bradbury <[log in to unmask]>

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Thu, 19 Jun 2014 15:12:20 +0100

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Hi Sarah and All,

#HacktheSpace was an "intense" event, I would say.  It was exciting to be
involved in, particularly because of meeting new people, sleeping in the
turbine hall (ever-so-briefly), working on a new project, and
watching/being a part of the spectacle.

The thing that hangs with me, though, is this perspective that gets sent to
the world that "art" can or should be made in a quick, competitive fashion.
 Or perhaps that digital art is something that happens quickly and easily.
The process of art-making is different for everyone, but in my practice, I
make hand-make objects that work in tandem with custom code.  Both of these
take time.  It would probably be seen as very strange for a turbine hall of
painters to be asked to make paintings in 20 hours or less with little to
no sleep.

In addition to the spectators on the balcony, there were many people
milling about the hall during the making day/night, talking to the groups.
 The time to conceive of and implement the project was short, and during
the process, we were constantly being asked what we were doing, what was
the concept, etc..  So after 20 hours, you have collaboratively created
something in haste and are then asked to stand by it and attach your
name/identity to it.  I am pleased with what the prototype our group
produced, but had I not been, it was a very public setting in which to be
linked with a project and a concept.

The event was well run by 3 Beards and The Space and overall it ran
smoothly.  We were well-fed and generally looked after.  I was pleased to
participate and am watching to see where Art Hacks go from here.

Victoria

-- 
// Victoria Bradbury
<PROJECTS> www.victoriabradbury.com
Researcher @ www.crumbweb.org
New Media Caucus <http://www.newmediacaucus.org/> <CommComm>
Attaya Projects <http://attayaprojects.com/> // Collaborator


On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 12:36 PM, Sarah Cook <[log in to unmask]>
wrote:

> on the ongoing question of digital arts coverage in the media, and the
> earlier thread about the digital art hack at the Tate, here's another
> article for consideration, in which Ruth MacKenzie is quoted rather more
> favourably (as Hannah was good to point out)...
>
>
> http://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2014/jun/16/hack-the-space-tate-modern
>
> CRUMB's PhD student, Victoria Bradbury, who is quoted in the article, will
> no doubt have some interesting findings to report on her participation in
> due course,
>
> Sarah
>
>
>
> On 18 Jun 2014, at 16:41, marc garrett <[log in to unmask]
> <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
>
> Hi Nicholas & all,
>
> >So instead of operating in the suburbs, how could the list propose that
> it is in fact the
> >art world that is suburban - with its gated community paywalls, whitecube
> picket fences,
> >and McMansions Art Centers - instead of the other way around.
>
> I agree with the above & Sarah’s post on the matter works for me.
>
> Anyway — I’m too busy at the moment with our ‘provincial’ exhibition. A
> collaboration with The Arts Catalyst “SEFT-1 Abandoned Railways Exploration
> Probe: Modern Ruins 1:220 — Ivan Puig and Andrés Padilla Domene”
> http://go.shr.lc/1jy7AJo
>
> It was featured in the Guardian last week by Jonathan jones ‘The
> ruin-hunters who drove a car down Mexico's forgotten railways’
> http://go.shr.lc/1qwbV4K
>
> And will be featured on the BBC news on Friday…
>
> Oh wait! I get it, it’s seen as ‘provincial’ because the work successfully
> reaches people, beyond their art establishment silos. Of course ;-)
>
> bye for now.
>
> marc
>
>
> > Sarah + all:
> >
> > I actually think that there's some stuff worth engaging in this...
> >
> > I haven't read Joanne's book, so I can't speak to the ways in which this
> > piece fails as a review, but this closing statement definitely sent a
> > shiver down my browser:
> >
> > "The problem with the book, as with internet art, is that no one has
> > recognised the aesthetic problems of provincial conversation. Work by
> > artists who turn inward to have hushed talks with a small coterie about
> > local problems will have little effect on culture at large. McLuhan’s
> > global village may have its merits, but the cultural celebration of
> > marginalism in art is not one of them."
> >
> > The reactionary in me would outright disagree with this, but I did have a
> > moment of thinking bout who does address the aesthetic problems of the
> > "provincial conversation" of internet art. So maybe as a way of thinking
> > about outright disagreeing with Pac Pobric, the list might suggest some
> > compelling counters?
> >
> > To that end, the metric of cultural relevance as proposed in this article
> > is squarely situated in archaic models of art presentation/distribution
> (I
> > think that a lot of us can agree on that). So instead of operating in the
> > suburbs, how could the list propose that it is in fact the art world that
> > is suburban - with its gated community paywalls, whitecube picket fences,
> > and McMansions Art Centers - instead of the other way around.
> >
> > very best
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 9:53 AM, Kelani Nichole <[log in to unmask]
> <mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> He is based in Brooklyn, no worries tho y'all I already invited him to
> our
> >> next opening at TRANSFER – Claudia Maté on July 12 :D
> >>
> >>
> >> Bests,
> >> Kelani Nichole
> >>
> >> Curatorial Director, TRANSFER
> >> http://transfer.gallery
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 9:49 AM, marc garrett <
> >> [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>
> >>> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Wow!
> >>>
> >>> Where do they find these people?
> >>>
> >>> marc
> >>>
> >>>  Hi CRUMBs
> >>>> thought you might be interested to read this article about internet
> art,
> >>>> which is a thin review of the book Art and the Internet, Joanne McNeil
> >> et
> >>>> al, Black Dog Publishing.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>
> http://www.theartnewspaper.com/articles/Internet-art-fails-to-click/32983
> >>>>
> >>>> It suggests that internet art takes place in the suburbs, that it is
> >>>> provincial.
> >>>> Use it as yet another rallying cry to improve the art history of this
> >>>> field of practice.
> >>>>
> >>>> Sarah
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> ===
> >>>>
> >>>> Dr. Sarah Cook
> >>>> Reader / Dundee Fellow
> >>>> Duncan of Jordanstone College of Art and Design
> >>>> University of Dundee
> >>>> 13 Perth Road DD1 4HT
> >>>>
> >>>> phone: 01382 385247
> >>>> email: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]
> ><mailto:[log in to unmask]>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> The University of Dundee is a registered Scottish Charity, No:
> SC015096
> >>>> .
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> --->
> >>>
> >>> A living - breathing - thriving networked neighbourhood -
> >>> proud of free culture - claiming it with others ;)
> >>>
> >>> Other reviews,articles,interviews
> >>> http://www.furtherfield.org/reviews.php
> >>>
> >>> Furtherfield – online arts community, platforms for creating, viewing,
> >>> discussing and learning about experimental practices at the
> >>> intersections of art, technology and social change.
> >>> http://www.furtherfield.org
> >>>
> >>> Furtherfield Gallery – Finsbury Park (London).
> >>> http://www.furtherfield.org/gallery
> >>>
> >>> Netbehaviour - Networked Artists List Community.
> >>> http://www.netbehaviour.org
> >>>
> >>> http://identi.ca/furtherfield
> >>> http://twitter.com/furtherfield
> >>>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> --->
>
> A living - breathing - thriving networked neighbourhood -
> proud of free culture - claiming it with others ;)
>
> Other reviews,articles,interviews
> http://www.furtherfield.org/reviews.php
>
> Furtherfield – online arts community, platforms for creating, viewing,
> discussing and learning about experimental practices at the
> intersections of art, technology and social change.
> http://www.furtherfield.org
>
> Furtherfield Gallery – Finsbury Park (London).
> http://www.furtherfield.org/gallery
>
> Netbehaviour - Networked Artists List Community.
> http://www.netbehaviour.org
>
> http://identi.ca/furtherfield
> http://twitter.com/furtherfield
>
> ===
>
> Dr. Sarah Cook
> Reader / Dundee Fellow
> Duncan of Jordanstone College of Art and Design
> University of Dundee
> 13 Perth Road DD1 4HT
>
> phone: 01382 385247
> email: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>
>
>
>
>
>
> The University of Dundee is a registered Scottish Charity, No: SC015096
>

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