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Re: article which mis-understands internet art, again?

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Sarah Cook <[log in to unmask]>

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Sarah Cook <[log in to unmask]>

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Wed, 18 Jun 2014 15:19:46 +0000

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Hi all

Combined with the blurb from the article that Nora posted, this has indeed brought a chill to an otherwise sunny afternoon. I am finding the amnesia in the art world about recent (last 20 years?) net-inflected art practices increasingly difficult to put up with, particularly when even those who are openly supportive of media practices don't remember an art work made a decade ago because it was only shown once, in a show they didn't see, or it was not well documented. Surely our role as curators is also to continue to research, and talk and write about recent histories and not just the new thing. As for writing about 'the provincial' - it has always been a question of translating the discourse from one of the many art worlds over to another one, as many on this list continue to try to do. I've always been happy to work on the edges of places, as they are generally more interesting.

wishing I were in Dublin for the opening of Glitch,
Sarah









On 18 Jun 2014, at 15:27, Nicholas O'Brien <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:

Sarah + all:

I actually think that there's some stuff worth engaging in this...

I haven't read Joanne's book, so I can't speak to the ways in which this
piece fails as a review, but this closing statement definitely sent a
shiver down my browser:

"The problem with the book, as with internet art, is that no one has
recognised the aesthetic problems of provincial conversation. Work by
artists who turn inward to have hushed talks with a small coterie about
local problems will have little effect on culture at large. McLuhan’s
global village may have its merits, but the cultural celebration of
marginalism in art is not one of them."

The reactionary in me would outright disagree with this, but I did have a
moment of thinking bout who does address the aesthetic problems of the
"provincial conversation" of internet art. So maybe as a way of thinking
about outright disagreeing with Pac Pobric, the list might suggest some
compelling counters?

To that end, the metric of cultural relevance as proposed in this article
is squarely situated in archaic models of art presentation/distribution (I
think that a lot of us can agree on that). So instead of operating in the
suburbs, how could the list propose that it is in fact the art world that
is suburban - with its gated community paywalls, whitecube picket fences,
and McMansions Art Centers - instead of the other way around.

very best



On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 9:53 AM, Kelani Nichole <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
wrote:

He is based in Brooklyn, no worries tho y'all I already invited him to our
next opening at TRANSFER – Claudia Maté on July 12 :D


Bests,
Kelani Nichole

Curatorial Director, TRANSFER
http://transfer.gallery



On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 9:49 AM, marc garrett <
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wrote:

Wow!

Where do they find these people?

marc

Hi CRUMBs
thought you might be interested to read this article about internet art,
which is a thin review of the book Art and the Internet, Joanne McNeil
et
al, Black Dog Publishing.


http://www.theartnewspaper.com/articles/Internet-art-fails-to-click/32983

It suggests that internet art takes place in the suburbs, that it is
provincial.
Use it as yet another rallying cry to improve the art history of this
field of practice.

Sarah


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Dr. Sarah Cook
Reader / Dundee Fellow
Duncan of Jordanstone College of Art and Design
University of Dundee
13 Perth Road DD1 4HT

phone: 01382 385247
email: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>





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A living - breathing - thriving networked neighbourhood -
proud of free culture - claiming it with others ;)

Other reviews,articles,interviews
http://www.furtherfield.org/reviews.php

Furtherfield – online arts community, platforms for creating, viewing,
discussing and learning about experimental practices at the
intersections of art, technology and social change.
http://www.furtherfield.org

Furtherfield Gallery – Finsbury Park (London).
http://www.furtherfield.org/gallery

Netbehaviour - Networked Artists List Community.
http://www.netbehaviour.org

http://identi.ca/furtherfield
http://twitter.com/furtherfield





--
Nicholas O'Brien

Visiting Faculty | Gallery Director
Department of Digital Art, Pratt Institute
doubleunderscore.net<http://doubleunderscore.net>

===

Dr. Sarah Cook
Reader / Dundee Fellow
Duncan of Jordanstone College of Art and Design
University of Dundee
13 Perth Road DD1 4HT

phone: 01382 385247
email: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>





The University of Dundee is a registered Scottish Charity, No: SC015096

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