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Re: Friday question - ideas for a birthday celebration

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Chris Webster <[log in to unmask]>

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Issues related to Historic Environment Records <[log in to unmask]>

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I'm surprised that those urls haven't already been taken by feminist
herstorians!

Chris Webster
Somerset Historic Environment Record
Somerset Heritage Centre
Brunel Way
Taunton
TA2 6SF

01823 347434

Online HER at www.somerset.gov.uk/her


-----Original Message-----
From: Issues related to Historic Environment Records
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Crispin Flower
Sent: 29 April 2014 12:37
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Friday question - ideas for a birthday celebration

It would be very interesting and useful (particularly for intensive
users of HER data) for this information about each HER to be public and
easily accessed. Probably a sanitised version, with less detail than
might go into the Audits?
Some HER have their own CMS web sites and can put such material there of
course, but many do not, hence the tentative suggestion for a central
repository for all. http://herstories.info or
http://herhistories.org.uk or something! Could equally be under e.g. HG,
IFP, ALGAO, but if enough people are interested and there's no easy
solution already we'll set something up.
atb
Crispin

-----Original Message-----
From: Issues related to Historic Environment Records
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Wise, Julia
Sent: 29 April 2014 11:22
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Friday question - ideas for a birthday celebration

The late 1990s full audit spec also required an introductory section
summarising the history and development of the SMR. I certainly
included one when we did the Bucks SMR audit in 2000 and have mentioned
major HER developments in subsequent Action Plans and Quinquennial audit
revisits.
The late 90s full audit spec actually included a lot of detailed
information gathering about the service as a whole with 3 of the 7
report sections concentrating on history and development, resourcing,
policy and access. The remaining 4 sections covered information flow
and processes, database content and spatial recording.
Regards,
Julia

Julia Wise
Historic Environment Record Officer
Buckinghamshire County Council
Tel: 01296 382072
http://www.buckscc.gov.uk/bcc/archaeology/Archaeology.page?


-----Original Message-----
From: Issues related to Historic Environment Records
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Davis, Nick
Sent: 29 April 2014 09:57
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Friday question - ideas for a birthday celebration

Dear All

Nick Davis here. Nick B is quite correct in saying that audit reports
(or at least the majority of them) contain a short history of the HER in
question (confined, of course, to English HERs). Audit revisits,
however, make no specific requirement for the HER to update these.
Nonetheless though, these histories might serve as useful source
material should an HER choose to produce a definitive account. In this
respect, however, I should probably outline the implications of audit
protocol for an initiative of this type:

The audit process is undertaken in confidence and we would not be able
to consider providing extracts from these reports to a third party. It
would though, be possible for the HER to use their own copy of the
report to draft an up to date and definitive version to submit to any
central repository (should one be created). We would, of course, be
happy to provide copies of the histories directly to HERs who no longer
have their reports on file.

Best wishes

Nick

-----Original Message-----
From: Issues related to Historic Environment Records
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of MacLean, Sarah
Sent: 29 April 2014 09:05
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Friday question - ideas for a birthday celebration

Dear all,

Just a quick one I'm afraid as I'm out the office this week and about to
head to a meeting.

The full audit spec since 2008 has asked HERs to provide a brief history
of themselves as part of the introduction. I can't speak for audits
prior to this but I think ones n 2006/7 despite being laid out
differently were more similar to current audits than the RCHME ones of
the late 90s which concentrated on the data itself rather than service
as a whole. We tend not to ask this again when HERs do their audit
revisits so once you're in the current audit programme you only really
do this once. Nick has far more information about this than I so I'm
sure he will correct me if I'm wrong!

Sometimes its good to celebrate things but it does rely on you
remembering/realising there is an anniversary coming up. It was pulling
together some statistics on HER Forum that made me realise that this
year was a 'significant' year of sorts so in some ways a pure accident.

Any further ideas of ways we can celebrate on list? I do accept e-mails
off list if you don't want to shout them out to the rest of the list!

all the best

Sarah

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