Well, I would have thought something along those lines, Bill, but if I've heard it before I cant remember (from my times in Oz).
You do have tales to tell...
Doug
On Mar 5, 2014, at 9:10 AM, Patrick McManus <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Aha thanks so it's a typical oz-zealander!:-)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Poetryetc: poetry and poetics [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Bill Wootton
> Sent: 05 March 2014 11:31
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: One knacker
>
> Pat, from our friends at Wiki pee:
>
> The term bogan (/'bo?g?n/)[1] is Australian and New Zealand slang, usually pejorative or self-deprecating, for an individual who is recognised to be from an unsophisticated background or someone whose speech, clothing, attitude and behaviour exemplify a lack of manners and education.[2]
>
> Hadn't thought about the 'bog' element. Heaney no one's idea of a bogan. What about a 'to bog (g) an'?
>
> Bill
>
>> On 5 Mar 2014, at 8:58 pm, Patrick McManus <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>
>> A bogan sounds like someone out of an Irish bog (bit like myself in
>> fact0
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Poetryetc: poetry and poetics [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>> On Behalf Of Bill Wootton
>> Sent: 05 March 2014 06:20
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: One knacker
>>
>> Two tinies duly amended, thanks, Max. No idea what happened to Sean.
>> The footy coach actually instructed him to 'take out' an opposing
>> ruckman from Lalor who was making the difference in the game. Sean did
>> but never looked the coach in the eye again. 'Bogan' probably does not
>> apply out of Aus but hey, let's see what Patrick and Doug make of the
>> term. A 'sleeve' is a single arm's worth of tattoos. I'd send a pic but this site won't handle it.
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Bill
>>
>>> On 05/03/2014, at 12:04 PM, Max Richards wrote:
>>>
>>> quite a full character sketch, Bill, and from how many years back?
>>>
>>> [tiny slips:
>>> de rigueur
>>> and shift hyphen up against sergeant]
>>>
>>> of course this reader is curious -
>>> what became of Sean?
>>> and you'd tell us if you knew.
>>> Splendid set of false teeth, I trust.
>>>
>>> [does the word bogan work outside Australia, I wonder?]
>>>
>>> not sure I can visualise single sleeves.
>>>
>>> I'm still a bit shocked at the coach's yell.
>>>
>>> Max
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 05/03/2014, at 8:06 AM, Bill Wootton wrote:
>>>>
>>>> One knacker
>>>>
>>>> Illiterate Sean, with his goofy
>>>> grin, both arms scraggily
>>>> tattooed above lanky wrists
>>>> (before single sleeves
>>>> became bogan de rigeur),
>>>> you wanted on your side.
>>>> Sean, that loosest
>>>> of Watsonia cannons.
>>>>
>>>> Cranky and snap-violent,
>>>> punctual only by accident,
>>>> lacking customary restraints,
>>>> tight grey-panted Sean,
>>>> to those in the know,
>>>> was a testicle light
>>>> but a ballsier leader
>>>> you'd struggle to find.
>>>>
>>>> Bursting through the centre
>>>> with the damp footy
>>>> one Greensborough winter,
>>>> kicking the sealer,
>>>> he inspired the coach
>>>> to yell, Go One-Knacker.
>>>> Sean shook his head
>>>> afterwards. Don't do that.
>>>>
>>>> A product of 9D,
>>>> legendarily unteachable,
>>>> reaching year 11
>>>> on tech school
>>>> automatic promotion,
>>>> Sean toothlessly offered
>>>> to assist three of us
>>>> teachers last period Friday
>>>>
>>>> when fifteen-year olds
>>>> get a whiff of weekend.
>>>> We stood back
>>>> while Sean sergeant
>>>> -majored kids to seats,
>>>> cocked an eye at us
>>>> and rasped: Don't forget
>>>> to all do your homework.
>>>>
>>>> bw
>>
>
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